No room at the inn

angelman · 26-09-2008, 02:12 AM

Absolutely ridiculous that criminals are let off their jail sentences because there is no space left in the prisons.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Tayside and Central | 'No room' in jail for fraudster

While I am not advocating going back to Victorian conditions, maybe these prisoners should have to share with 3 or 4 people in cramped conditions. Get rid of all the TV rooms and snooker tables and put more beds there. Alternatively, maybe we should adopt what they do in, I think, Sweden (I know it is somewhere in Scandanavia). You get a jail sentence and serve it when a space becomes available, whether that be in a week or a few years down the line. FAiling that build more jails, especially so that you can lock up perverted vicars, with 57000 peado images, for more than 3.5 years.

TannyD · 27-09-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by angelman

Absolutely ridiculous that criminals are let off their jail sentences because there is no space left in the prisons.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Tayside and Central | 'No room' in jail for fraudster

While I am not advocating going back to Victorian conditions, maybe these prisoners should have to share with 3 or 4 people in cramped conditions. Get rid of all the TV rooms and snooker tables and put more beds there. Alternatively, maybe we should adopt what they do in, I think, Sweden (I know it is somewhere in Scandanavia). You get a jail sentence and serve it when a space becomes available, whether that be in a week or a few years down the line. FAiling that build more jails, especially so that you can lock up perverted vicars, with 57000 peado images, for more than 3.5 years.

The Swedish way sounds nice, but what measures would be taken to keep tabs and make sure the person doesn't leave the country or disappear. What about crimes commited while waiting to get a space at the prison?

angelman · 30-09-2008, 02:46 PM

Tanny - to be honest I have no idea. I was just bouncing something around, rather than just let these criminals off scot free. But what you say is sort of summed up here: BBC NEWS | UK | Early release inmates on the run

TannyD · 02-10-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by angelman

Tanny - to be honest I have no idea. I was just bouncing something around, rather than just let these criminals off scot free. But what you say is sort of summed up here: BBC NEWS | UK | Early release inmates on the run

Okay, no worries.

British-Conservatism · 02-10-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by angelman

Absolutely ridiculous that criminals are let off their jail sentences because there is no space left in the prisons.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Tayside and Central | 'No room' in jail for fraudster

While I am not advocating going back to Victorian conditions, maybe these prisoners should have to share with 3 or 4 people in cramped conditions. Get rid of all the TV rooms and snooker tables and put more beds there. Alternatively, maybe we should adopt what they do in, I think, Sweden (I know it is somewhere in Scandanavia). You get a jail sentence and serve it when a space becomes available, whether that be in a week or a few years down the line. FAiling that build more jails, especially so that you can lock up perverted vicars, with 57000 peado images, for more than 3.5 years.

You could double the room for inmates as you say in our current prisons.
Deportation of over 10,000 foreign prisoners would free up more space and then build Labour Camps (far cheaper than prisons) for the rest.

angelman · 03-10-2008, 12:30 AM

what was wrong with prison ships? were they too uncomfortable for the poor prisoners or did it abuse their civil rights!!!? Maybe they were too expensive - it always amazes me why these things are so expensive to run.

Why not have an open prison on one of the Shetland Islands?

British-Conservatism · 03-10-2008, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by angelman

what was wrong with prison ships? were they too uncomfortable for the poor prisoners or did it abuse their civil rights!!!? Maybe they were too expensive - it always amazes me why these things are so expensive to run.

Why not have an open prison on one of the Shetland Islands?

I dont think the Shetland Islanders would like that.
However those in for over say 5 years could be sent to work in Labour camps collonies in the Falklands and South Georgie.
They could begain building for our future oil production in such areas.

angelman · 03-10-2008, 09:26 AM

BC, I like your thinking but I can see 2 problems:

1) I don't really like the idea of the Government setting up Labour Camps and taking jobs out from the free market (presuming that the contract did not go abroad)

2) unfortunately I think that someone might complain about visitor's rights.

British-Conservatism · 03-10-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by angelman

BC, I like your thinking but I can see 2 problems:

1) I don't really like the idea of the Government setting up Labour Camps and taking jobs out from the free market (presuming that the contract did not go abroad)

2) unfortunately I think that someone might complain about visitor's rights.

Number 1 shoudlnt be a worry as it will be jobs the free market would never do.
Number 2 dosnt matter at all as the public will be behind the measures we put in place.

Besoeker · 04-10-2008, 01:54 PM

Employ the prisoners in building more prisons maybe?

26-09-2008, 02:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
angelman Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 474	No room at the inn Absolutely ridiculous that criminals are let off their jail sentences because there is no space left in the prisons. BBC NEWS \| Scotland \| Tayside and Central \| 'No room' in jail for fraudster While I am not advocating going back to Victorian conditions, maybe these prisoners should have to share with 3 or 4 people in cramped conditions. Get rid of all the TV rooms and snooker tables and put more beds there. Alternatively, maybe we should adopt what they do in, I think, Sweden (I know it is somewhere in Scandanavia). You get a jail sentence and serve it when a space becomes available, whether that be in a week or a few years down the line. FAiling that build more jails, especially so that you can lock up perverted vicars, with 57000 peado images, for more than 3.5 years.

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30-09-2008, 02:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
angelman Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 474	Tanny - to be honest I have no idea. I was just bouncing something around, rather than just let these criminals off scot free. But what you say is sort of summed up here: BBC NEWS \| UK \| Early release inmates on the run

03-10-2008, 12:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
angelman Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 474	what was wrong with prison ships? were they too uncomfortable for the poor prisoners or did it abuse their civil rights!!!? Maybe they were too expensive - it always amazes me why these things are so expensive to run. Why not have an open prison on one of the Shetland Islands?

03-10-2008, 09:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
angelman Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 474	BC, I like your thinking but I can see 2 problems: 1) I don't really like the idea of the Government setting up Labour Camps and taking jobs out from the free market (presuming that the contract did not go abroad) 2) unfortunately I think that someone might complain about visitor's rights.

04-10-2008, 01:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Besoeker Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,982	Employ the prisoners in building more prisons maybe?