angelman

Reading in my Metro this morning, it is nice to see Lee Jasper, he who apparently handed out grants to some fairly spurious black causes in London, being such an inverted racist. I particularly like the comments attached to the article.
Race campaigner: We need all-black schools | Metro.co.uk

Also interesting to see the race article in the Sun this morning where finally someone has come out and started talking about it without fear of being called a racist. Now perhaps we can have a progressive and meaningful discussion. While I personally don't read the Sun unless I find it on the tube, I do realise that the power it holds on the political front is not to be under-estimated, so I find it interesting that they have this article.
Trevor Kavanagh | At last we can all be Frank on immigration | The Sun |News|Columnists|kavanagh

Wowbanger TIP

lol. Hello Jasper? We have had "all black schools" for decades, their are dozens in Birmingham alone. Does Jasper really believe that the 1 - 5% of "white" kids in some of these schools are responsible for the failure of the students? How about an alternative hypothesis like say, the black community has developed a massive sub culture which rejects any form of education in favor of the glorification of petty criminality and an indulgent victimization complex? Na, must be whitey, bring back apartheid!

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Baron von Lotsov

So racism has polarity. Hmm.

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rjt

The most important thing we need in our education system is choice, plenty of of it and the abolition of student loans. not all black, all white, all non faith, all faith, all muslim, all non muslim, all welsh, all scots etc.

Parents need to be empowered to take the choices they think is best for their kids and a free education to university standard should be available so he young do not start out their working life with massive debts.

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TannyD

Right so we need all-black/one ethnic group schools and how will this affect the people who attend these school when they get shoved out into the real world where they have little choice in who they have to work with? Might it cause more problems?

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kernow

Well said, I agree 100%!

rjt

I thought we would agree on that one!

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Wowbanger TIP

How do achieve choice in a system dominated by geography? Choice in such services is a meaningless aspiration on a level with "CHANGE" (TM).

We need a radical reassessment of what education is for, only then can be think about implementation.

Take university. What is he point in us warehousing adolescents while we educate them in irrelevant academic subjects like History and English? We need an meritocratic elite university system designed to produce productive professionals, engineers, chemists, architects, artillery officers etc.

And another thing, every undergraduate should be obliged to serve a year in the Army with a mandatory tour in some filthy hole like Iraq. That should discourage the half wit SWP types.

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Geneology King

We need a black Prime Minister and/or Queen!!!

angelman

the thing that has been playing on my mind is, quoting from the article:

He also pointed to Jewish, Muslim and Hindu communities, which already had their own schools, but said all-black schools had been dismissed by 'liberals'.

Now I am presuming that the communities that "have" their own schools have to a large extent set these up themselves and are private, fee paying schools, which I take cannot instigate a policy of only admitting a particular faith. To a certain extent the teaching in these schools is very specific to the faith/back ground and most people from outside the faith would not want to send their children there. eg being a WASP I am sure a Jewish/Hindu/Muslim school based on the respective faith would be what I want for my kids, although a lot of people become Catholics to get into Catholic schools! Or closer to home, a new school has opened in my area and there is not a cat's chance in hell that I would send my kids there - its a French school, possibly the most clique and insular race of people living in my part of London, giving less back to the local community than EVERY other group of people (presuming arrogance cannot be included).

Now what is stopping the black community setting up a fee paying school which has compulsory extra curricula lessons in black history. I am sure that would put off a lot of white people and then by default, rather than entrance policy, could become exclusively black. But that's not what Mr Jasper wants is it. I presume that he is wanting these all black schools to be funded by the government. When he does refer to the Jewish/Hindu/Muslim having their own schools, how many are private compared to state?

The other point, going back a step, is religion. Black people, and I am guessing he is referring to Afro-Caribbeans, are largely Christians and therefore they are well catered for in the school system both private and state. Religion seems to be a reason given for different communities having their "own" schools, and cannot be applied in this case. Anyway, I feel schools should not form entrance policy on religion.

Mr Jasper seems to be mixing up skin colour and religion.