Whither The Future of the Church of England

kernow · 05-09-2008, 08:43 PM

I wonder how long it will be before the EU announces, Islam is to become the new EU Religion? I can only hope never! They are my twin hates!

Stephen Booth · 05-09-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

Protestant Christianity hatched the mouldy egg of liberalism which is the summary term for the most derisory moral standards possible.

But surely there are different forms of Protestant Christianity? And some forms of Christianity oppose liberalism. Over the years there have been many theological disputes over liberalism, and in some quarters the description 'liberalism' is seen as a term of abuse and something to be shunned.

I am not sure that liberalism has much to do with Protestant Christianity, it probably has more to do with atheists like Rousseau and Voltaire? I think a stronger criticism would be to look at what the Church of England people believe and say, and how they behave today, and make a criticism of this. I think, again, you'll find that there are different approaches in the different wings of the C of E. Some of them may be bad, and others of them good.

"A hospital may stink of pus and blood; in that lies its beauty, for it receives the sick with their disgusting sores and horrible diseases." - Pastor Richard Wurmbrand, 'In God's Underground', Hodder and Stoughton 1968, page 32.

kernow · 06-09-2008, 02:53 AM

The Ten commandments for me is a good rule book for life, providing the bit about , "I am a Jealous God, thou should have no other Gods but me," isn't included! If everyone stuck to the Ten Commandments ,except the afore mentioned we wouldn't go far wrong! It would be a pretty dull old life mind you, not coveting your neighbor's Ox or Ass, or the adultery bit! But at least it would be peaceful! Perhaps that's what all those "frightened to die" forerunners of the C of E thought!

angelman · 09-09-2008, 06:18 PM

I must confess that I had to look them up. Here is a simplified version of them, or rather a simple translation:

1. You shall have no other Gods but me.
2. You shall not make for yourself any idol, nor bow down to it or worship it.
3. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
4. You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy.
5. Respect your father and mother.
6. You must not kill.
7. You must not commit adultery.
8. You must not steal.
9. You must not give false evidence against your neighbour.
10. You must not be envious of your neighbour's goods. You shall not be envious of his house nor his wife, nor anything that belongs to your neighbour.

Kernow - you say that you have a problem with 1, but I would include 2, 3 and 4. The rest are spot on, apart from 7 which I am ambivalent towards.

g hall · 12-09-2008, 07:42 PM

angelman you missed the eleventh "Don't get caught"

kernow · 12-09-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by angelman

I must confess that I had to look them up. Here is a simplified version of them, or rather a simple translation:

1. You shall have no other Gods but me.
2. You shall not make for yourself any idol, nor bow down to it or worship it.
3. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
4. You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy.
5. Respect your father and mother.
6. You must not kill.
7. You must not commit adultery.
8. You must not steal.
9. You must not give false evidence against your neighbour.
10. You must not be envious of your neighbour's goods. You shall not be envious of his house nor his wife, nor anything that belongs to your neighbour.

Kernow - you say that you have a problem with 1, but I would include 2, 3 and 4. The rest are spot on, apart from 7 which I am ambivalent towards.

You're quite right , I should have included 2,3 and 4! Long time ago I read them!

Populist Lee · 13-09-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

A decision has been made at DCHQ that Orangemen are not allowed to join DC.

You should get out of the Bunker more, Mein Fuehrer.

This decision will be nullified.

Dissident Congress · 14-09-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Populist Lee

You should get out of the Bunker more, Mein Fuehrer.

This decision will be nullified.

In that case we'll discuss this at another meeting. Is there a particularly good reason why Orangemen should be welcome in DC?

Populist Lee · 20-09-2008, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

In that case we'll discuss this at another meeting.

I anticipate you'll be kicking your heels in Coventry for a long time to come.

Dissident Congress · 20-09-2008, 05:49 PM

Lee

We discussed the Orange Order at a meeting years ago and you said they are still fighting the Battle of the Boyne. So far not a single Orangeman has even contacted DCHQ about anything, so I presume they are still fighting the Battle of the Boyne.

Whoever told you that DC has a branch in Coventry? David Nellist had a few DC leaflets shoved through his letterbox...

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g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: erewhon Posts: 5,522	angelman you missed the eleventh "Don't get caught" __________________ "That government is best which governs least." "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries". "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful." Remember TANSTAAFL and TANJ

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Dissident Congress Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 750	Lee We discussed the Orange Order at a meeting years ago and you said they are still fighting the Battle of the Boyne. So far not a single Orangeman has even contacted DCHQ about anything, so I presume they are still fighting the Battle of the Boyne. Whoever told you that DC has a branch in Coventry? David Nellist had a few DC leaflets shoved through his letterbox... __________________ Dissident Congress Promoting Populist Patriotism Our Nation - Our People - Our Heritage - Our Future

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05-09-2008, 08:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,182	I wonder how long it will be before the EU announces, Islam is to become the new EU Religion? I can only hope never! They are my twin hates!

06-09-2008, 02:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,182	The Ten commandments for me is a good rule book for life, providing the bit about , "I am a Jealous God, thou should have no other Gods but me," isn't included! If everyone stuck to the Ten Commandments ,except the afore mentioned we wouldn't go far wrong! It would be a pretty dull old life mind you, not coveting your neighbor's Ox or Ass, or the adultery bit! But at least it would be peaceful! Perhaps that's what all those "frightened to die" forerunners of the C of E thought!

09-09-2008, 06:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
angelman Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 474	I must confess that I had to look them up. Here is a simplified version of them, or rather a simple translation: 1. You shall have no other Gods but me. 2. You shall not make for yourself any idol, nor bow down to it or worship it. 3. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God. 4. You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy. 5. Respect your father and mother. 6. You must not kill. 7. You must not commit adultery. 8. You must not steal. 9. You must not give false evidence against your neighbour. 10. You must not be envious of your neighbour's goods. You shall not be envious of his house nor his wife, nor anything that belongs to your neighbour. Kernow - you say that you have a problem with 1, but I would include 2, 3 and 4. The rest are spot on, apart from 7 which I am ambivalent towards.