youcanhandlethetruth

Aardvark, I think maybe you're missing the point here....

Forgetting your comments relating to "devoid of typos, poor English and drivel about Bilderbergers and treason" for the moment, the important point here is:
"net neutrailty"

It means everyone can post whatever they like within the confines of the law (which includes free speech by the way irrespective of personal beliefs or communist government controls) allowing an open platform and level playing field for everyone, not just those websites you or the government sees fit to censor.

There is a clear parallel to be drawn between freedom of speech in public(1st amendment for example ?) and freedom of expression over the internet.

If you really do like Anthony's website and don't want to see it disappear along with youtube, then you better understand that political websites (including those affiliated to political parties) will not be exempt from censorship.

The same in all likelihood applies to websites where users can upload their own material e.g. personal videos.

The government's loathing of "youtube" is not becasue of "social networking" sites, like myspace (who ironically already already censor material), it is becuse of the 9/11 truth movement and alternative media which are undermining the government's deceit and manipulation and exposing the New World Order.

That is the real reason, whether you agree with the movement or not.

Cited examples which include "protecting children" or "music sales" are simply a cover to sell the idea to the public.

If you care about the internet as we know it, then I suggest you read the thread:
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/talk...-too-late.html

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Aardvark

ychtt,

I am alert to the dangers of governments seeking to limit what adults might or might not view over the net. As I say 'viral marketing/campaigning works'. I don't have to agree with what you say to want you to be allowed to say it.

The problem at the moment is that we are controlled by one of the most interfering and legislating governments in history supported by the EU. We are almost powerless to stop the encroachment on our liberties and I doubt there is much we can do as individuals to stop them.

With the demise of cheap carbon based travel I can see us travelling on bicycles with seditious DVDs to try to convey our messages. We'll be the fittest political dissidents in history.

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youcanhandlethetruth

ha ha ha

I take your points Aardvark -most quaintly put.

In regard to your comment:

"We are almost powerless to stop the encroachment on our liberties and I doubt there is much we can do as individuals to stop them."

The first step in defeating any enemy is always to understand their battle plan.

Unless we aren't willing to at least understand their motives and strategy, then it will be even harder to deal with the enemy when they eventually do attack. But are we just going to surrender ?

Actually, I think you underestimate the will and capability of educated people to enagage in exposing corruption and instigate change based on the understanding of tyranny and political motivation.

After all, the powers that be must feel threatened otherwise they would see no need to shut the internet down would they ?

So it's a positive sign of how the alternative media is winning, not losing.

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Aardvark

ychtt, We are close to being in agreement. It is important that we find ways of ensuring we can continue to communicate freely.

The Internet is vulnerable at all times and I was in Israel/Palestine when the Israelis confiscated the palnet servers and copied the information from them. This was followed by a series of targetted assassinations of Palestinian terrorists. The mission staff e-mail used palnet as we didn't have access to secure servers for routine stuff. No doubt Mossad has details of all my e-mails to my wife.

We have to remember that everything we post is susceptible to interception and that half the battle is to make the sheer volume of hay so massive that the needle can't be found. That's not easy and at the end of the day there could be massive electronic files on those of us who are considered risks, whether we be reliable and trusted members of society (like me!) or not.

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Lazyguy

YCHTT: net neutrality means the ISPs allowing the same access speeds to all websites.

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gremlin in the works

it dose not shock me that youtube and the net are coming under attack by The government and the media,becouse totalitarian governments dont care much for free info been spread about the place and people talking to each other Freely.

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youcanhandlethetruth

You're right.

Internet 2 could mean a fast lane for corporate accepted websites and a slow lane for other traffic and non-corporate websites.

Censorship is a different issue but an even bigger worry - if websites get censored net neutrality ceases to exist from the point of view that the websites effectively don't exist.

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Besoeker

Is that just your opinion or a fact that you can support?

Aardvark

Sorry, IMHO a lot of older MPs are not Internet savvy. The fact they have a web presence is often down to the quality of young researchers they find. I've certainly heard some very strange comments by MPs that suggest a lack of awareness.

I know he's improved, but David Cameron's agent, Barry Norton, as Tory group leader on West Oxon DC, questioned the council officers as to why we were going to pay thousands to consultants to build a LAN and WAN to link the district's offices when the secretaries were IT literate and could fit it round their other work!!! He also told everyone in the Tory group that e-mails were a passing fad and he wasn't going to bother to learn (a year later he stood proudly in the council chamber and said he'd sent an e-mail as if it were a big thing). Luckily the bright young things have got him sorted out, but it is true that many older people don't appreciate the power of the Internet and its limitations. I learn something new about the Internet virtually daily and I'm not alone.

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Lazyguy

Internet 2 is user-generated content(as in Youtube).

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