Question Should home educating parents be forced to get a job and send their kids to school?

peacelovinman · 01-06-2008, 05:36 PM

Having home educated my kids (with my wife) for some years before they chose to attend secondary school (yes, we were that good!

) I feel at least partially qualified to comment.

My wife and I home educated whilst living from my sole income and we did great. I would go along with the arguement that a tax break would have come in handy but I would happily forego that to continue to let people enjoy the right to educate their children independently.

The trouble these days is that, with so many one-parent families, home-education means living from benefits. I don't believe in forcing people to do anything but if they do not have the means to educate at home, what do you do?

The usual arguements such as Bear trots out are all rubbish; indicative of the kind of "shil" that likes to frequest and stir up trouble on these forums. Home-education isn't perfect and school offers things that home-ed can't. However, given the chance again, I would do the same again, especially during the primary years.

For_England · 01-06-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

Home educating parents can currently take income support until their youngest child is 16. In October this year new legislation comes into force where once the youngest child is 12, income support will be replaced with job seeker's allowance and the parents told to find a job. In 2010 the age limit for the youngest child will be reduced to 7 years old.

Well in America, my wife doesn't get anything for staying at home and educating the children.

Ken · 01-06-2008, 07:05 PM

Typical Cultural Marxist. Keep all my money to myself but impose totalitarianism on others to bring about utopia.

Dissident Congress · 01-06-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

All “home” educating should be banned.

Children need to grow up equipped in the best way possible to live in the real world and that includes socialising with others and if that means developing a thick skin be it from experience or scar tissue the sooner they do so the better.

They always said that left-wing politics are born in the school playground...

For_England · 01-06-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken

Typical Cultural Marxist. Keep all my money to myself but impose totalitarianism on others to bring about utopia.

Yes, and schooling is a big part of that. It's one of the concerns I have about a Democratic administration in America - the lefties in the Democrat party know full well that state school is their greatest brainwashing weapon.

Dissident Congress · 01-06-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by For_England

Yes, and schooling is a big part of that. It's one of the concerns I have about a Democratic administration in America - the lefties in the Democrat party know full well that state school is their greatest brainwashing weapon.

Same with Labour.

Here are some comments from theyworkforyou:

"Maybe it is because home education is growing in popularity that the government sees it as a threat to their unpopular and failing model of education.

The government is seriously losing touch with the electorate here. The State-run education system is failing abysmally, report after report is confirming this. If members of parliament are supposed to represent the wishes of their electorate, they seriously need to do some self-evaluation and look at what they actually do stand for."

"But this dreadful government, which gets worse by the day, will never listen, so the sooner we get shot of them the better."

BonnieDundee · 02-06-2008, 03:08 AM

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They shouldn't be given government 'help' of any kind. The government shouldn't 'help' (i.e. force) them into a job, nor should it give them monetary support. Instead, those who homeschool their children should get a tax deduction to the same value of sending their child to a state school.

I completely agree with you again Smidgey.

BonnieDundee · 02-06-2008, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

All “home” educating should be banned.

Children need to grow up equipped in the best way possible to live in the real world and that includes socialising with others and if that means developing a thick skin be it from experience or scar tissue the sooner they do so the better.

I must agree with the general condemnation of these comments Bear. I do sympathise with the need to socialise, my secondary school years were great mainly due to socialising. But it should be the right of the parent to teach their children and the less state brainwashing we have th better.

BonnieDundee · 02-06-2008, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken

Typical Cultural Marxist. Keep all my money to myself but impose totalitarianism on others to bring about utopia.

Well totalitarianism and utopia should not be used together and I don't know what cultural Marxism you have been reading up on bu tif you mean the usual lot like the Frankfurt school, Situationists, council communists etc they are very libertarian and could never be called totalitarian. In fact I doubt most are into gov't schools, most aren't even into having a proper state.

The Bear · 02-06-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

As I said Socialism without the economic side which would effect you.
I expect you would have been quite at home in the SDP or the Liberal party in the 1970's.
Today I can imagine you either voting Green or Lib Dem.

Then as with virtually all of the assumptions that I have seen you make on here, or the way that you seem too understand what takes place around you, you would be absolutely wrong.

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01-06-2008, 05:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
peacelovinman Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10	Having home educated my kids (with my wife) for some years before they chose to attend secondary school (yes, we were that good! ) I feel at least partially qualified to comment. My wife and I home educated whilst living from my sole income and we did great. I would go along with the arguement that a tax break would have come in handy but I would happily forego that to continue to let people enjoy the right to educate their children independently. The trouble these days is that, with so many one-parent families, home-education means living from benefits. I don't believe in forcing people to do anything but if they do not have the means to educate at home, what do you do? The usual arguements such as Bear trots out are all rubbish; indicative of the kind of "shil" that likes to frequest and stir up trouble on these forums. Home-education isn't perfect and school offers things that home-ed can't. However, given the chance again, I would do the same again, especially during the primary years.

01-06-2008, 07:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ken Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 216	Typical Cultural Marxist. Keep all my money to myself but impose totalitarianism on others to bring about utopia.