Kanadesaga

As with any empire, the British had it's rise, it's setbacks and it's fall. If the United States hadn't sold itself out it might have held out for another 50-75 years. As it is, I give it ten. If that.

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Westcountryman

It was largely the US who were behind the dismantling of the British Empire.

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VanillaSpice

They have a right to live wherever they need to set up a better life. You also have the same right to go anywhere in the world where you'd choose to live. But these are also dependant on your willingness and contribution to the new land communities. We all accept the inevitable by paying taxes, doing work, helping others and of course friendship.

Akria

Nationalism is repugnant. Patriotism is merely a more socially acceptable guise of nationalism in which discrimination is in favour of something rather than against other things.

Everyone should stop with the closed-mindedness and embrace humanity rather than a single nation or group of nations.

The British Empire was one of the better empires, but an empire nonetheless.

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The commonality of mankind:
If you prick us, do we not bleed?
If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die?

Frith

So this means that when the Norwegians celebrate their freedom from Denmark on Constitution Day and do so with national costume and various cultural parades, they are just being "repugnant"? They should have allowed Denmark to keep its dominion over them? Iceland should similarly not celebrate its own freedom from the Danish yolk? When it does so it's just being "repugnant? Tibet is "repugnant"? It should join with China and celebrate its oneness? America is "repugnant? The Americans are a nation and celebrate their freedom from Britain. Is this just disgusting? Should they rather have pushed for a single world identity instead?

British-Conservatism

You nor I have any such right nor should we.
A democratic society however should allow its people to vote on whether we should end immigration all together.

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British-Conservatism

Nationalism is one of the greatest forces of unity and social advancement ever.
It creates pride and a feeling of belonging.

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Kanadesaga

I don't have the time to fully explore this now. But nationalism is responsible for two World Wars in the 20th century. The subjegation of millions of indigenuous peoples by coloinial powers, the exploitation of their rnatural resources for the mother countries and is why a retard from Texas was able to convince a nation to go into Iraq!!

Yepper, nationalism is wonderful!!

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Akria

Patriotism is not repugnant but it is both irrational and undesirable.

Celebration of a significant event in a nation's history is desirable.
There are many lessons to be learned from history, and it is a good way of making sure that people remember those lessons.

Self-determination is not patriotism. Self-determination is indeed desirable.

Tibet is, likewise, not a case of patriotism but a case of attempting to save a people from an oppressive regime.

The USA is not repugnant - once again that is self-determination, and very much justified in light of the British treatment of the colonies as nothing more than a money box.
Once again - celebration of significant national events is not patriotism.

As for a single world identity - good lord, no! That would be both boring and dangerous!
I like nations and I like different identities. It's just that they're not something to be proud of.

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If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die?

Roland

I'm no hard line nationalist or patriotist but it those two qualities that make a country free it's those two qualities that mean the people of a country have decided what to be rather than being socially engineered or indoctrinated into fitting into a category that the ruling or political classes have decided the people of a country should be.


You just don't get it. To embrace humanity is to exsept people for what they are not to try and mold them into somthing we'd like them all to be and then send them as the communists did into labour camps if they don't comply.

Patriotism is part of the natural instinctive animal inside us. We're patriotic about our friends. We're patriotic about the music we like. We're patriotic about even stupid things like 22 men kicking a dead cow between two posts and seeing if it can get past the man trying to stop it. And on a larger scale we're patriotic about our country.

It's natural and ten thousand years of evolution, social airs and graces an early form of social engineering and modern social engineering such as political correctness will not take that away from any one of any religion country or race.

I'll give you two examples to think about. Girls tend to go for controlling men that push other men around. Why? Because no matter how we're told to behave or what women do or don't like. No matter how much she talks of her dream man that's caring and considerate a womans natural instinct is to go for a dominant male.

With regard to race look at the situation with the fall of Russian communism with the break off soviet states. Wile the Iron curtain was there to control every one different races got on when it fail different races started to attack each other. Again that is the natural instinct for survival. That is no racist comment that is the scary truth. I was talking to a mate of mine thats black about this subject who completely agreed and further to this pointed out that some black people are just as racist as white. The same rule aplies to all races.

That in no way shape or form means we can't get on fine it just means we should be aware of this and not pretend or be scared to say that the danger is their the greatest danger is for people to shy away from the issue or pretend it is not their or it could never happen to us.