Question Farage,absent again?

Keyser Soze · 08-10-2008, 11:22 AM

I have been looking through some ukip sites and found this in the Articles section of this site,why wouldn't Farage attend such an important meeting as this one?

Anyone have any ideas as to why he was absent from this one,seems as he doesn't care at all about ukip members and what they think,if members can spend their cash turning up,so should the Leader as well to my way of thinking.

UK Independence Party Mid and West Wales Branch UKIP

Hartlepool · 08-10-2008, 11:37 AM

I'm not aware of this but i'm not surprised either,Farage and the cabal treating members with contempt like this is not on IMHO.

The other letters are eyeopeners as well on the mess ukip are in because of a few.

BASILDON BOY · 08-10-2008, 12:00 PM

Why o why is UKIP Wales posting private internal letters on their website! And why is a UKIP official publicly supporting the disgraced Mote - look at some of the past articles!

BASILDON BOY · 08-10-2008, 12:21 PM

WTF!!!!!!!!!!

Why is a UKIP official passing on information to Mote and offering to support him and then posting it on an official UKIP website!!!???

UK Independence Party Mid and West Wales Branch UKIP

Email to Ashley Mote

Dear Ashley

Thank you for your good wishes. I am sorry to belittle the efforts of what people have done in Brussels, but we need somebody this side of the water hammering away at Europe from this end and also the chronic public waste through PFI, Government use of consultants, delay on implementing nuclear power, etc. etc.

We need a leader this side of the water, who can galvanise the branches. That is quite simply not happening, and when I asked at the Business Meeting whether there was any Plan B, should UKIP not get more than one or two MEPs next May, the Chairman’s incredible reply was that it didn’t matter, we are going to get far more seats anyway! We haven’t got a Plan B. Messrs. Zuckerman and Campbell Bannerman looked equally blank, and I think my remarks to the NEC was that it was like ‘an aged horse being walked round the ring by a wily trainer’. It’s probably the nearest definition I can get to where we are. Hundreds of keen supporters are being alienated, but fortunately now it’s not my problem. I shall continue to operate at constituency level where I have a very easy opponent, one Lembit Opik.

If there’s ever the chance of being a supporting act on one of your speaking engagements anywhere in the U.K., please let me know. One needs a sense of humour in politics right now.

Thank you for your support.

Kind regards.

Bruce

eublues · 08-10-2008, 12:36 PM

"Why o why is UKIP Wales posting private internal letters on their website! And why is a UKIP official publicly supporting the disgraced Mote - look at some of the past articles!"

Absolutely - how could he think it is appropriate to air his views in this way under the UKIP banner. Clearly a loose cannon.

Millennium3 · 08-10-2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BASILDON BOY

WTF!!!!!!!!!!

Why is a UKIP official passing on information to Mote and offering to support him and then posting it on an official UKIP website!!!???

UK Independence Party Mid and West Wales Branch UKIP

Email to Ashley Mote

Dear Ashley

Thank you for your good wishes. I am sorry to belittle the efforts of what people have done in Brussels, but we need somebody this side of the water hammering away at Europe from this end and also the chronic public waste through PFI, Government use of consultants, delay on implementing nuclear power, etc. etc.

We need a leader this side of the water, who can galvanise the branches. That is quite simply not happening, and when I asked at the Business Meeting whether there was any Plan B, should UKIP not get more than one or two MEPs next May, the Chairman’s incredible reply was that it didn’t matter, we are going to get far more seats anyway! We haven’t got a Plan B. Messrs. Zuckerman and Campbell Bannerman looked equally blank, and I think my remarks to the NEC was that it was like ‘an aged horse being walked round the ring by a wily trainer’. It’s probably the nearest definition I can get to where we are. Hundreds of keen supporters are being alienated, but fortunately now it’s not my problem. I shall continue to operate at constituency level where I have a very easy opponent, one Lembit Opik.

If there’s ever the chance of being a supporting act on one of your speaking engagements anywhere in the U.K., please let me know. One needs a sense of humour in politics right now.

Thank you for your support.

Kind regards.

Bruce

Desperation?

SponPlague · 08-10-2008, 12:42 PM

The content on that breaches the UKIP branch website style and content guide: UKIP Branch Website Committee - UKIPBWC

It is exactly that sort of site that large part of the guide are designed for.

Hartlepool · 08-10-2008, 01:50 PM

A question,has anyone on here seen these letters before today?

They are certainly new to me and all others that I have asked.

Millennium3 · 08-10-2008, 01:56 PM

I think most ex and disaffected UKIP members would agree with the sentiment of this letter. Surely, even those who remain faithfully to the leadership cannot deny the validity of BL's plea.

Perhaps he wrote to AM to fire up the cabal to respond to the points.

BASILDON BOY · 08-10-2008, 02:03 PM

A UKIP Wales official website is not the place to publish confidential internal communication.

UKIP websites are there to promote and publicise the party, its policies and candidates - with one aim - to gain votes and win elecitons.

These letters and emails should not be in the public interest - await the newspaper articles!

08-10-2008, 11:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
Keyser Soze Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 482 Party: Free England Party	Farage,absent again? I have been looking through some ukip sites and found this in the Articles section of this site,why wouldn't Farage attend such an important meeting as this one? Anyone have any ideas as to why he was absent from this one,seems as he doesn't care at all about ukip members and what they think,if members can spend their cash turning up,so should the Leader as well to my way of thinking. UK Independence Party Mid and West Wales Branch UKIP __________________ England and the English will break the stranglehold of the Communist styled European Union..

08-10-2008, 11:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,785 Party: Free England Party	I'm not aware of this but i'm not surprised either,Farage and the cabal treating members with contempt like this is not on IMHO. The other letters are eyeopeners as well on the mess ukip are in because of a few. Last edited by Hartlepool; 08-10-2008 at 11:40 AM.

08-10-2008, 12:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,799	Why o why is UKIP Wales posting private internal letters on their website! And why is a UKIP official publicly supporting the disgraced Mote - look at some of the past articles! __________________ Mike Nattrass MEP is HOT HOT HOT!!! Last edited by BASILDON BOY; 08-10-2008 at 12:11 PM.

08-10-2008, 12:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,799	WTF!!!!!!!!!! Why is a UKIP official passing on information to Mote and offering to support him and then posting it on an official UKIP website!!!??? UK Independence Party Mid and West Wales Branch UKIP Email to Ashley Mote Dear Ashley Thank you for your good wishes. I am sorry to belittle the efforts of what people have done in Brussels, but we need somebody this side of the water hammering away at Europe from this end and also the chronic public waste through PFI, Government use of consultants, delay on implementing nuclear power, etc. etc. We need a leader this side of the water, who can galvanise the branches. That is quite simply not happening, and when I asked at the Business Meeting whether there was any Plan B, should UKIP not get more than one or two MEPs next May, the Chairman’s incredible reply was that it didn’t matter, we are going to get far more seats anyway! We haven’t got a Plan B. Messrs. Zuckerman and Campbell Bannerman looked equally blank, and I think my remarks to the NEC was that it was like ‘an aged horse being walked round the ring by a wily trainer’. It’s probably the nearest definition I can get to where we are. Hundreds of keen supporters are being alienated, but fortunately now it’s not my problem. I shall continue to operate at constituency level where I have a very easy opponent, one Lembit Opik. If there’s ever the chance of being a supporting act on one of your speaking engagements anywhere in the U.K., please let me know. One needs a sense of humour in politics right now. Thank you for your support. Kind regards. Bruce __________________ Mike Nattrass MEP is HOT HOT HOT!!!

08-10-2008, 02:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,799	A UKIP Wales official website is not the place to publish confidential internal communication. UKIP websites are there to promote and publicise the party, its policies and candidates - with one aim - to gain votes and win elecitons. These letters and emails should not be in the public interest - await the newspaper articles! __________________ Mike Nattrass MEP is HOT HOT HOT!!!

08-10-2008, 12:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,100	"Why o why is UKIP Wales posting private internal letters on their website! And why is a UKIP official publicly supporting the disgraced Mote - look at some of the past articles!" Absolutely - how could he think it is appropriate to air his views in this way under the UKIP banner. Clearly a loose cannon.

08-10-2008, 12:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
SponPlague Uber Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Zurich Posts: 2,990	The content on that breaches the UKIP branch website style and content guide: UKIP Branch Website Committee - UKIPBWC It is exactly that sort of site that large part of the guide are designed for.

08-10-2008, 01:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,785 Party: Free England Party	A question,has anyone on here seen these letters before today? They are certainly new to me and all others that I have asked.

08-10-2008, 01:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 4,499	I think most ex and disaffected UKIP members would agree with the sentiment of this letter. Surely, even those who remain faithfully to the leadership cannot deny the validity of BL's plea. Perhaps he wrote to AM to fire up the cabal to respond to the points.

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