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Old 01-10-2008, 03:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Geoffrey, Mark Croucher was involved with Searchlight.
Ah, this old nonsense again. Saying it repeatedly doesn't make it true, at least not in the sense meant. Not that that stops this same old distortion being rolled out to defend BNP infiltrators. I'm surprised you haven't gone straight for the 'he handed the membership lists over to Searchlight for checking' cobblers.
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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As I recall, Mark, you were always careful not to specify what the arrangements were, so it's difficult for them to be clear about this...
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Old 01-10-2008, 04:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
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david h: I am not at all surprised, it is an oft repeated story. It appears that Searchlight are either not very efficient, or sympathetic to the New Britain Party. I hope that we shall soon enter a better era for the fortunes of UKIP. From what I hear from the coffee houses of England, is that conclusion of the judicial review will signal new changes. A party in which the leadership is being constantly investigated, and concerns about disappearing donations and elusive bank accounts are legion, obviously needs a reappraisal of our methods and cultural.
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Sorry 'cultural climate'.
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Haha... what time is hell due to freeze over?

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Quite soon, given UKIP don't belive in global warming
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:04 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Just perusing Liar-Watkins latest missive, where he says:

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I have been an outspoken opponent of Racism and anti Judaism since the 1960s, without a single solitary change of opinion or resolve
So imagine my surprise to find such a paragon of integrity wrote:

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in which they treat torture of prisoners and willingness to support the obscenity of the behaviour of Israel against the indiginous peoples of Palestine.
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Originally Posted by Greg Liar-Watkins, sieg heil
It is time to drive The Zionists into the sea
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Originally Posted by Greg Liar-Watkins, sieg heil
Before criticising Hamas perhaps we should look to the fact that they are democraticly elected
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I do not condone or encourage the actions of Hezbollah, Hamas, alQaida, PLO or any organisation that seeks to inflict death on civilians but one is unwise if one can not empathise
There's much more in the same vein dating bck to 1999 that I have to hand, but I can't be bothered to read such drivel. It's sufficient to get the idea though.

But don't I have a recollection of someone saying.....?

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My EVERY word is, as I always hope to be, accurate and true and as with ANY material I may publish I will stand by it in spirit and in detail. Should I ever be proven wrong I will immediately make correction and open apology – I am pleased to say that no one in my 62 years to date has EVER put me in such a position. I have ALWAYS endeavoured to tell only the truth.
So, what do you think it will be? An apology for mis-leading his readers, assuming anyone can be bothered to wade through such turgid fantasy, or another long-winded rant?

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This is spin and selective quoting Mark as well you know

For far to long the media has dominated the agenda by ridiculing all those who dare to think and speak outside the cosy centre ground consensus

GLW certainly doesn't follow any cosy centre ground consensus. Look at the mess following the centre ground has got us.

GLW is always clear to criticise Zionists NOT Jews. There is a big difference as you should know.

GLW has NEVER praised the BNP unless you quote him out of connect

GLW has forthright views you should debate with him sometime it is an education.

GLW is always prepared to debate his views in public with anyone who asks.

He is right wing libertarian a Conservative with a small c, which is pretty unfashionable these days.

Anyway no doubt you'll keep pumpimg out your spin it probably helps you digest your food
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Old 02-10-2008, 08:30 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Actually, he used to describe the BNP as 'another patriotic party', but that may have been before you knew him. It's difficult to keep up with views which change so often.

Just so we're clear, he said:

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I do not condone or encourage the actions of Hezbollah, Hamas, alQaida, PLO or any organisation that seeks to inflict death on civilians but one is unwise if one can not empathise
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as with ANY material I may publish I will stand by it in spirit and in detail
I can't wait to hear his excuse for empathising with such charming characters as

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Originally Posted by Hamas Culture Minister Atallah Abu Al-Subh
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is the faith that every Jew harbors in his heart
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Originally Posted by Yousif al-Zahar of Hamas
Jews are a people who cannot be trusted. They have been traitors to all agreements. Go back to history. Their fate is their vanishing
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Originally Posted by Sheik Yunus al-Astal, a Hamas legislator
suffering by fire is the Jews' destiny in this world and the next ....... we are sure that the Holocaust is still to come upon the Jews
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Originally Posted by In 2003 Hamas leader Abdel Aziz Rantisi
published an article in the Hamas weekly Al-Risala in which he called the Holocaust "the false Holocaust" and "the greatest of lies".
But then I'm not surprised, if he had Nick Griffin phoning him up and asking if he could pop round for the weekend. Perhaps he wanted some tips as he'd forgotten section 3 of the BNP manifesto, 'Holocaust Denial'.

And, from Hamas' point of view
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Originally Posted by Esther Webman of the Project for the Study of Anti-Semitism, University of Tel Aviv
the anti-Semitic rhetoric in Hamas leaflets is frequent and intense. Nevertheless, anti-Semitism is not the main tenet of Hamas ideology. Generally no differentiation was made in the leaflets between Jew and Zionist, in as much as Judaism was perceived as embracing Zionism
And it's no use claiming it's selective quoting, it isn't. We've all been subjected to such missives from him in the past. It's worth remembering that Hamas are the moderate group in the list of people he empathises with.

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