How will UKIP do at the 2009 EU elections?

michael mcgough · 28-08-2008, 05:52 PM

Have a look at this;

EU Referendum: A nightmare comes true?

jp · 28-08-2008, 05:59 PM

The quality of the UKIP campaign will be absolutely crucial.

Hopefully lots of video of Nigel verbally beating up the various Euphiles in and outside of the EU "parliament" along with some heavy negative campaigning concentrating on the shortcomings of Conservative MEP's and the rigged internal Tory elections.

mrabody · 28-08-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jp

Hopefully lots of video of Nigel verbally beating up the various Euphiles in and outside of the EU "parliament" along with some heavy negative campaigning concentrating on the shortcomings of Conservative MEP's and the rigged internal Tory elections.

**** me with a rotten banana, are you a comedian?

T.N.Warry · 28-08-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mrabody

**** me with a rotten banana, are you a comedian?

"Language Timothy"

chikrodah · 28-08-2008, 07:15 PM

Interesting concept. Both the Tories and Labour are noted for ensuring that sitting MEPs stay sat, as it were. It's hardly rigged if everybody knows the score beforehand. Or do you have some juicy gossip?

SponPlague · 28-08-2008, 07:24 PM

Fascinating!

Millennium3 · 28-08-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Worstall

3%? 2% of the vote? Where on earth are those numbers coming from?

Last euros we got (from memory, an all too fallible thing) 2.6 million didn't we?

That's a great deal more than 2 or 3 % of the vote there.

It seems to met the most revealing aspect of the poll, so far, is that although the predictions for MEPs ranges from 0 - above 10, 70% believe UKIP will decline whatever the number of MEPs elected.

This reflects the fact that the number of MEPs seems to have little bearing on the primary purpose of the party, up until now, which is to change our relationship with the EU - which can only be achieved through the HofC.

NF might wish for the EU elections to be a referendum on the LT, but, incidentally, this poll is turning out to be a mini referendum on the quality of NF's leadership.

jp · 28-08-2008, 08:04 PM

"Interesting concept. Both the Tories and Labour are noted for ensuring that sitting MEPs stay sat, as it were. It's hardly rigged if everybody knows the score beforehand. Or do you have some juicy gossip? "

I thought this story was well understood, but here's some background:

ConservativeHome's Seats & Candidates blog: The story of how the party's EU enthusiasts fixed the MEP selection process

chikrodah · 28-08-2008, 08:11 PM

Thanks for the information. Not everybody has the time to read Conservative Home regularly.

michael mcgough · 28-08-2008, 08:16 PM

The head of candidate selection is the europhile Maples.I doubt an anti-EU leader would have appointed such.

View Poll Results: How many MEPs will UKIP get in 2009 - and then what?
0 - 4 MEPs and then flourish	1	1.92%
0 - 4 and then decline	26	50.00%
5 - 9 MEPs and then flourish	4	7.69%
5 - 9 MEPs and then decline	7	13.46%
10 or above and then flourish	12	23.08%
10 or above and then decline	2	3.85%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

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28-08-2008, 05:52 PM	#21 (permalink)
michael mcgough Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 821	Have a look at this; EU Referendum: A nightmare comes true?

28-08-2008, 05:59 PM	#22 (permalink)
jp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,000	The quality of the UKIP campaign will be absolutely crucial. Hopefully lots of video of Nigel verbally beating up the various Euphiles in and outside of the EU "parliament" along with some heavy negative campaigning concentrating on the shortcomings of Conservative MEP's and the rigged internal Tory elections.

28-08-2008, 07:15 PM	#25 (permalink)
chikrodah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,642	Interesting concept. Both the Tories and Labour are noted for ensuring that sitting MEPs stay sat, as it were. It's hardly rigged if everybody knows the score beforehand. Or do you have some juicy gossip?

28-08-2008, 07:24 PM	#26 (permalink)
SponPlague Uber Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Zurich Posts: 2,948	Fascinating!

28-08-2008, 08:04 PM	#28 (permalink)
jp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,000	"Interesting concept. Both the Tories and Labour are noted for ensuring that sitting MEPs stay sat, as it were. It's hardly rigged if everybody knows the score beforehand. Or do you have some juicy gossip? " I thought this story was well understood, but here's some background: ConservativeHome's Seats & Candidates blog: The story of how the party's EU enthusiasts fixed the MEP selection process

28-08-2008, 08:11 PM	#29 (permalink)
chikrodah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,642	Thanks for the information. Not everybody has the time to read Conservative Home regularly.

28-08-2008, 08:16 PM	#30 (permalink)
michael mcgough Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 821	The head of candidate selection is the europhile Maples.I doubt an anti-EU leader would have appointed such.