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Old 02-08-2008, 12:59 AM   #61 (permalink)
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mrabody,

You are aware, I assume, that Michael Keith-Smith posts on this forum? I always say nice things about him to be on the safe side. Damages might seem small, but if you win a penny in damages then costs lie with the other side.

There was a case where the Tory Mayor of Chelsea was accused of spanking a lady thirty or forty years his junior over a kitchen table. The jury awarded the man a penny as he turned out to be a complete cad. The costs crippled the other side.

People without reputations should not slag off those of us who are above the salt, it's a costly affair.
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Old 02-08-2008, 01:27 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Thanks very much for the warning. I truly hope I have not ired you too much with my complaint against you which I made earlier this evening. You, a moderator on this forum, can presumably destroy me financially if you so choose as it is no libel to state that I do not have the resources to employ expensive lawyers.

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Old 02-08-2008, 01:29 AM   #63 (permalink)
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You are aware, I assume, that Michael Keith-Smith posts on this forum? I always say nice things about him to be on the safe side. Damages might seem small, but if you win a penny in damages then costs lie with the other side.

There was a case where the Tory Mayor of Chelsea was accused of spanking a lady thirty or forty years his junior over a kitchen table. The jury awarded the man a penny as he turned out to be a complete cad. The costs crippled the other side.

People without reputations should not slag off those of us who are above the salt, it's a costly affair.
Yes I am well aware that even in the case of a penny judgement costs may be payable by the other side. It's a pity that such cases aren't treated like small claims. I much prefer litigation North-American-style where the courts in most instances only award nominal costs and only rarely award what are known as solicitor-client costs (that is the full cost of the action), and then only in cases where one party or their counsel has behaved egregiously. Making a litigant bear the majority of the costs for his action helps focus the potential litigant's mind on important questions such as - "is this really worth a lawsuit?"

Unfortunately England has earned something of a reputation as a centre of libel tourism.

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You, a moderator on this forum, can presumably destroy me financially if you so choose as it is no libel to state that I do not have the resources to employ expensive lawyers.

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It was posted as a general warning about being slightly cautious about what you write. Don't worry about us mods - we're as poor as church mice!
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Blimey all this talk of libel and slander, why has that suddenly become an issue. I have commented many times that the forum is full of unsubstantiated innuendo, speculation and at time downright lies, but the comments have rarely been 'pulled' or openly moderated.
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Independent UKIP, as you will know, I get a lot of flak on this forum. As a mod I am careful never to moderate on my behalf which means that some stuff thrown at me, which I might find offensive, is allowed to stand. I am careful of my reputation in certain areas, but have only resorted to law on one occasion and got the correction I needed without any money changing hands. I know what is true about me and what is opinion. I know a lot of people take it all with a pinch of salt in politics and nobody should be a candidate for any poliical office if they can't take a few knockbacks.

Bob FM, if you know of a lie report it to the moderators and it will be removed if you have facts to back your assertion. Innuendo, rumour and speculation are all part of politics and will never be moderated. The forum would disappear completely. Why should we moderate such things when the Sun and News of the World can publish far worse stuff?
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Annabelle breached her employer's confidence and caused them embarrassment. True she may argue that she was provoked by John West's silly, stupid behaviour into doing something very wrong but she still appears to have broken the law. She has lost her job.
Really?

Have you not considered as an alternative scenario that she might possibly have been a loyal employee acting on instructions, and that, loyal to the end, she could perhaps have accepted the role of scapegoat in order to protect the person who paid her wages from damaging fallout following his 'get West' order?
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Is Nigel despairing of us? Mandrake, on page 6. of to-days Daily Telegraph reminds us what a small world it is. David Cameron is enjoying a 'holiday at home' in the West Country. It is a working holiday of course, meeting farmers, journalists and making public visits.

By a most extraordinary coincidence, they family renting the next door cottage, is none other than that of Nigel Farage, and his progeny:, leader of the U.K. Independence Party. What an excellent and unexpected opportunity for our leader to expalin to D.C. why we cannot co-operate with him in the next G.E. unless he is committed to the our withdrawl from the EU. We know it is the countryside in which they are staying, and it will be sufficient to say boo to a goose, he must say BOO to Cameron. Why is our morale so low!
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' But must not say BOO to Cameron'. sorry.
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This just brought disrepute on EUkip Very revealing
Yes, very. Also:

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Clear rumour has it that when this squalid debacle commenced Farage in complete denial of reality, morality or ANY understanding of leadership fought his own senior members for two days to try to prevent the sacking of Annabelle Fuller – members in the hierarchy inform me that the fight to preserve this [OFFENSIVE REMARKS BY LEGIN DELETED BY MOD] became most acrimonious only being resolved when John Wittacker threatened to go public with Farage’s incompetence and obsession with hanging onto this damaging individual.
Could there really be two allegedly eurosceptical writers with that style? Note also the immature and distasteful playground insults towards Ms Fuller. Didn't somebody else call her a [DELETED] recently?

The textual evidence does seem compelling. Incidentally, the comments above are almost certainly libellous against Ms Fuller. May I suggest that the whole thread be deleted on this basis?

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