News: Annabelle Fuller resigns from UKIP

Aardvark · 25-07-2008, 09:16 AM

GL-W is circulating a leaked e-mail, allegedly from John Whittaker, which states that Annabelle Fuller has resigned from UKIP and from her post as press officer.

Does anybody know if this is the case?

SponPlague · 25-07-2008, 10:03 AM

JW's email is genuine. Yet again our NEC leaks like a sieve! Apparently Annabelle sent out a press release yesterday; I am endevouring to get a copy...

Bob FM · 25-07-2008, 10:19 AM

Is it any wonder given the venom she has had to endure from the likes of GLW. Whoever passed this information to GLW should own up and if a UKIP member should also resign.

SponPlague · 25-07-2008, 10:30 AM

John's email is addressed to the NEC; they are known to leak like a sieve, Bob...

Anthony Butcher · 25-07-2008, 10:41 AM

Is this to do with the John West 'leaked' video saga?

Aardvark · 25-07-2008, 11:27 AM

Anthony, Ultimately it probably is. I received a copy of John Whittaker's e-mail to the NEC from G L-W this morning. It appears to be real. It has gone, presumably, to G L-W's e-mail address list.

There are lots of other assertions that GL-W believes to be true, but as he has got one wrong to my knowledge concerning the fact that the issue of the John West video is a police matter, rather than one for the Information Commissioner (s60 DPA), I have not posted the whole e-mail here. That's why I asked the question.

It seems that the leaked e-mail is real and that G L-W has a direct link to the NEC, which I think most of us knew or guessed in any event.

The problem I see is that the issue is moving too fast for the NEC or the party leadership to react. My interpretation, and I do not practice law as you know, of s55(1) DPA is that an offence has been committed by someone and that if John West goes to the Information Commissioner then a fine, probably very heavy, could be incurred by UKIP's data controller or the party or another individual or all 3.

The alleged John Whittaker e-mail suggests monumental incompetence at the highest level. It is not well crafted and is not sufficient to stop John West, I would guess, from pursuing the matter. There is no indication that the party has apologised to John West in person and that there is no indication that they have sought to get the material off Youtube, although I haven't checked the link this morning. In any event the BNP have copied and circulated the link and it is probable that several thousand people have now seen the interview - most will be within the Eurosceptic movement and many will know John West personally. This increases rather than mitigates the problem as John West is potentially humiliated within his own community.

This is a mess. It requires strong leadership and resolve to knock the issue on the head quickly. At the end of the day Whittaker's comments about Annabelle's missing laptop don't stack up as GL-W has pointed out. The laptop was lost in London on an unspecified day at an unspecified time and returned a few days later having been accessed by a 'third party'. My girlfriend had her laptop nicked and had reported it to the police within 5 minutes of discovering the fact. I would guess the laptop contained a lot more than one interview, yet the person who looked copied John West's interview, but not Nigel Farage's or that of another well known person.

Somebody somewhere is telling big, big fibs and somebody senior ought to fall on his/her sword. UKIP cannot afford to be fined for an offence under the DPA.

mrabody · 25-07-2008, 12:57 PM

The video is no longer up. Can't seem to find alluringlyteutonic either on youtube.

SponPlague · 25-07-2008, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrabody

Can't seem to find alluringlyteutonic either on youtube.

Try YouTube - alluringlyteutonic's Channel

No content left on it, though...

mrabody · 25-07-2008, 01:20 PM

Funny, I couldn't find any reference to alluringlyteutonic when I searched Youtube.

SponPlague · 25-07-2008, 01:31 PM

That's because the default search is videos, and there ain't any left... I used the online help to find out how to search for users...

25-07-2008, 09:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,730	Annabelle Fuller resigns from UKIP GL-W is circulating a leaked e-mail, allegedly from John Whittaker, which states that Annabelle Fuller has resigned from UKIP and from her post as press officer. Does anybody know if this is the case? __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

25-07-2008, 10:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
SponPlague Uber Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Zurich Posts: 2,478	JW's email is genuine. Yet again our NEC leaks like a sieve! Apparently Annabelle sent out a press release yesterday; I am endevouring to get a copy... Last edited by SponPlague; 25-07-2008 at 10:05 AM.

25-07-2008, 10:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 9,823 Party: None	Is this to do with the John West 'leaked' video saga? __________________ If you care about what's in your food and where it comes from, then get it labelled! Label My Food - http://www.labelmyfood.org.uk

25-07-2008, 11:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,730	Anthony, Ultimately it probably is. I received a copy of John Whittaker's e-mail to the NEC from G L-W this morning. It appears to be real. It has gone, presumably, to G L-W's e-mail address list. There are lots of other assertions that GL-W believes to be true, but as he has got one wrong to my knowledge concerning the fact that the issue of the John West video is a police matter, rather than one for the Information Commissioner (s60 DPA), I have not posted the whole e-mail here. That's why I asked the question. It seems that the leaked e-mail is real and that G L-W has a direct link to the NEC, which I think most of us knew or guessed in any event. The problem I see is that the issue is moving too fast for the NEC or the party leadership to react. My interpretation, and I do not practice law as you know, of s55(1) DPA is that an offence has been committed by someone and that if John West goes to the Information Commissioner then a fine, probably very heavy, could be incurred by UKIP's data controller or the party or another individual or all 3. The alleged John Whittaker e-mail suggests monumental incompetence at the highest level. It is not well crafted and is not sufficient to stop John West, I would guess, from pursuing the matter. There is no indication that the party has apologised to John West in person and that there is no indication that they have sought to get the material off Youtube, although I haven't checked the link this morning. In any event the BNP have copied and circulated the link and it is probable that several thousand people have now seen the interview - most will be within the Eurosceptic movement and many will know John West personally. This increases rather than mitigates the problem as John West is potentially humiliated within his own community. This is a mess. It requires strong leadership and resolve to knock the issue on the head quickly. At the end of the day Whittaker's comments about Annabelle's missing laptop don't stack up as GL-W has pointed out. The laptop was lost in London on an unspecified day at an unspecified time and returned a few days later having been accessed by a 'third party'. My girlfriend had her laptop nicked and had reported it to the police within 5 minutes of discovering the fact. I would guess the laptop contained a lot more than one interview, yet the person who looked copied John West's interview, but not Nigel Farage's or that of another well known person. Somebody somewhere is telling big, big fibs and somebody senior ought to fall on his/her sword. UKIP cannot afford to be fined for an offence under the DPA. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

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25-07-2008, 10:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bob FM Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 1,126	Is it any wonder given the venom she has had to endure from the likes of GLW. Whoever passed this information to GLW should own up and if a UKIP member should also resign.

25-07-2008, 10:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
SponPlague Uber Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Zurich Posts: 2,478	John's email is addressed to the NEC; they are known to leak like a sieve, Bob...

25-07-2008, 12:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
mrabody Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 549	The video is no longer up. Can't seem to find alluringlyteutonic either on youtube.

25-07-2008, 01:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
mrabody Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 549	Funny, I couldn't find any reference to alluringlyteutonic when I searched Youtube.

25-07-2008, 01:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
SponPlague Uber Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Zurich Posts: 2,478	That's because the default search is videos, and there ain't any left... I used the online help to find out how to search for users...