Bob FM

I do apologise if I fail to see humour in the constant personal attacks. I also cannot comment on the video as it no longer exists. It is true to say that dealing with the media is an important element of politics, and having read those who say he was useless, and others that he was OK, again we seem to be back to 'personal' interpretation. I for one wish this forum could be used in a constructive way to the benefit of UKIP but that clearly is not it's focus or intent. I still await a response by John West as to why he included one of my video, doing exactly what he claimed of others, posting without permission.

Peterc

It will most certainly make me truely happy to see aneone, and yes that includes UKIP, go into bankruptcy if that is necessary, and making libel statements makes it necessary!

If people stuck to facts and not lied then probally my money could have been better spent, but unfortunatly Annabelle decided otherwise.

Bob FM

It is of course your right Peter, and I make no comment on that, however given the nature of this forum, is it not self evident that people will use like with like. There is much mischief posted on here that has no basis in fact but it is allowed to fester away. Even when things are shown to have been fabricating the perpotraters are simply allowed to move on to the next piece of fiction.

progcon.org

Annabelle is an asset to UKIP and I hope it is not true.

I've got to say that having seen the John West video, if he is typical of the future of ukip then you are f#cked. Was the absence of any charisma a mandatory requirement for applying?

It's about time you had politically experienced and younger people like Annabelle as MEP's instead of some of the candidates who look like they haven't spent much time out of their sheds interacting with other humans.

I've got to say, and it is probably out of turn, but I think John Whittaker is a bit of a pr1ck and as inspiring a chairman as a log. Kick Whittaker out, imho. There is so much deadwood to cut out, you might as well start with the chief trunk.

This whole scrabble to become MEP's for UKIP is very distasteful. I know we've argued the pros and cons of UKIP having MEP's to death, but this scrabble seems nothing more than greedy people blinded by the smell of eu swill.


(and no! I have no interest in *any* elected roles, just giving my tuppence worth).

Tim Worstall

"Was the absence of any charisma a mandatory requirement for applying?"

Thanks for that....made me laugh anyway.

Please note that I'm not actually trying to link it to anyone or thing: I just admire a finely tuned insult.

Anthony Butcher

It really wasn't that bad. He managed to answer the questions and didn't sound like an idiot. That's a result in my book. Don't forget that he is untrained - people can learn to improve their media performances. I certainly wouldn't fail someone on the basis of that interview.

UKIP is somewhat limited in its options. Apparently there were some areas where there were so few applicants they didn't even bother with the media interviews.

I am sure that there are some decent people in there too, but there are, as you say, a number of individuals engaging in some rather underhand self-promotion. There are also questions being raised about the selection procedure itself, the suitability of some candidates, the eligability of Marta Andreason, nepotism and in the South West they don't appear to trust the central party not to rig the votes. All in all a great start.

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You're welcome Tim. ;-)

Henry Mayhew for chairman I say. He'll probably kill me for suggesting that though, but he would be perfect.

Tony,
I am probably scarred by first encountering the Wests on their Suffolk ukip site when I moved to the area. 'eurgh' was probably my first reaction. Really, if people are praising candidates of such low quality, then things are clearly in a very bad state.

There is nothing wrong in seeking to attract people outside the Addams or Munster family circle you know. They might even appeal to, um, er, voters.

Aardvark

Clive, apologies for assuming that the people involved in the selection interviews kept copies of those interviews. The other question then is who had copies? Did the candidates get given a copy?

This is all a bit of a mess and the assumptrions flying about are not being corrected by those in the know.

BobFM this forum was used for constructive criticism and helpful suggestions. It is only because older and longer serving forum members have become more than a little jaded that it appears to be attacking the hierarchy. Everyone here originally wanted UKIP to succeed. Sometimes it appears that some of those at the top don't want the same result.

Bellatrix, who could confirm or deny so many things, has gone remarkably quiet.

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C_steam

I note that "Alluringlyteutonic" is an anagram of

"Ugly tit Urinal clone"

It's an open and shut case, clearly.

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Clive Page

Apology accepted.
There seems to have been a huge amount of assumptions re the selection process and the media testing.
First.The interviews on tv were preceded by a mock newspaper interview.
A two or three paragraph on the performance was then passed to the selection committe.They were given a mark out of ten.
Remember that the selection committee marked pout of 120 over six categories.I have no idea what the categories were.
The selection committee did NOT see the tv interviews.Therefore I find it hard to believe anybody could fail the entire selection process on the media test.
Indeed some people who performed really badly made their way onto the lists in some regions .

The interviews were recorded onto a lap top.
This was then used to produce one disc which was sent to Chris Gill who did have the chance to see all or some of the recorded interviews.
Therefore all info was held either on the laptop or on the disc by Mr Gill.
Hopes that helps clarify.
Clive