A Response to Mr Wise from the Ind/Dem Group

Barboo · 25-06-2008, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimlet

Has anyone confirmed that the letter from Herman Verheirstraeten is real?

As it has been posted to the Ind/Dem website I should think it's safe to assume it's genuine.

Petrina · 25-06-2008, 05:53 PM

"There you go Petrina, a celebration from 2004, wasn't that justified."Bob FM

How convenient !

I`d be astonished if the stocks had lasted that long !

T.N.Warry · 25-06-2008, 06:15 PM

BobFM don't you ever feel a bit lonely only sharing the company of other Party sycophants?

Bob FM · 25-06-2008, 10:08 PM

Not really the truth will out as my grandfather would have said. You must be leading really sad lives if you need to cling to your racist views.

T.N.Warry · 26-06-2008, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob FM

Not really the truth will out as my grandfather would have said. You must be leading really sad lives if you need to cling to your racist views.

what racist views???????????????????????????????????

Petrina · 26-06-2008, 10:47 AM

Quite! No one has mentioned anything which could possibly be called rascist .
This is a ridiculous remark of BobFM.

Geoffrey Collier · 26-06-2008, 11:34 AM

Herrman Verheirstraeten, made a comment which is important. Was it deliberate to provoke a response. It is a matter of record that a NEC member proposed a UKIP wine operation, as scheme for fund raising. It was approved by the NEC, and the proposer was quite hopeful that it had, 'Great Capabilities' as Mr Brown would have said.

Following the NEC's approval, the proposer received a telephone call from Tom Wise, informing him that he (Wise) was to be put in charge of the scheme. He was to visit a vineyard the Lebanon to organise wine importation. A subsequent telephone call from Mike Nattrass, confirmed that this was to be the future arrangement. The proposer of the scheme was informed, not too politely, that his role in the matter was now at an end.

Clearly UKIP wine/champagne did exist, but how much money is/was actually realised for the Party? From where was the operation conducted? Wine importation is a complicated business, bonded warehouses; duty obligations, etc. This requires a full explanation. We are talking about a scheme which was approved by the NEC. and it appears to have existed as a reality. Should not further information be provided?

arden forester · 26-06-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by T.N.Warry

I was going to ask that as well but felt a bit silly to ask!! Still glad you have asked Petrina.
Now who knows tthe answer??

Far from being silly. There's so much nonsense in public life these days you just have stand back, take a deep breath and be glad you are at least trying to remain normal!!

C_steam · 26-06-2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petrina

Quite! No one has mentioned anything which could possibly be called rascist .
This is a ridiculous remark of BobFM.

Quite. But see my post elsewhere regarding BFM's tendency to make snap judgements on little evidence. Another member of the UKIP Bigot club, I believe.

Bob FM · 26-06-2008, 12:34 PM

I see GC has climbed on board another 'white elephant'. Do you not consider taking the 'mick' out of someone because they are not grammatically correct in a foreign tongue is not very nice.

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25-06-2008, 05:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
Petrina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: sussex Posts: 1,036	"There you go Petrina, a celebration from 2004, wasn't that justified."Bob FM How convenient ! I`d be astonished if the stocks had lasted that long !

25-06-2008, 06:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
T.N.Warry Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somerset Posts: 888	BobFM don't you ever feel a bit lonely only sharing the company of other Party sycophants?

25-06-2008, 10:08 PM	#24 (permalink)
Bob FM Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 1,787	Not really the truth will out as my grandfather would have said. You must be leading really sad lives if you need to cling to your racist views.

26-06-2008, 10:47 AM	#26 (permalink)
Petrina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: sussex Posts: 1,036	Quite! No one has mentioned anything which could possibly be called rascist . This is a ridiculous remark of BobFM.

26-06-2008, 11:34 AM	#27 (permalink)
Geoffrey Collier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,160	Herrman Verheirstraeten, made a comment which is important. Was it deliberate to provoke a response. It is a matter of record that a NEC member proposed a UKIP wine operation, as scheme for fund raising. It was approved by the NEC, and the proposer was quite hopeful that it had, 'Great Capabilities' as Mr Brown would have said. Following the NEC's approval, the proposer received a telephone call from Tom Wise, informing him that he (Wise) was to be put in charge of the scheme. He was to visit a vineyard the Lebanon to organise wine importation. A subsequent telephone call from Mike Nattrass, confirmed that this was to be the future arrangement. The proposer of the scheme was informed, not too politely, that his role in the matter was now at an end. Clearly UKIP wine/champagne did exist, but how much money is/was actually realised for the Party? From where was the operation conducted? Wine importation is a complicated business, bonded warehouses; duty obligations, etc. This requires a full explanation. We are talking about a scheme which was approved by the NEC. and it appears to have existed as a reality. Should not further information be provided?

26-06-2008, 12:34 PM	#30 (permalink)
Bob FM Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 1,787	I see GC has climbed on board another 'white elephant'. Do you not consider taking the 'mick' out of someone because they are not grammatically correct in a foreign tongue is not very nice.