Smoking in pubs

Besoeker · 06-02-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by This-England

There is a huge demand for non-smoking pubs in my area that’s why everyone I know who doesn’t smoke backs the ban.
The Smokers of course oppose the ban. (self interest again)

I oppose the ban and I'm a non-smoker.
Mrs B opposes the ban and she's a non-smoker.
My sister opposes the ban and she's a non-smoking publican with her head screwed on. If she thought her business would benefit from going non-smoking she would have already done it, legislation or not. As it is, she will be obliged to comply with legislation which she sees as contrary to her business interests.

This-England · 06-02-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by B.A.Ware

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There is a huge demand for non-smoking pubs in my area that’s why everyone I know who doesn’t smoke backs the ban.

So there are no businessmen in your area that would like to fill this lucrative opportunity.
There was me thinking market forces should prevail, there’s no butchers around my area that sell halal meat perhaps the government should bring out a law making all butchers sell it.

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The Smokers of course oppose the ban. (self interest again)

Unlike Non-smokers I believe both parties should be catered for and the government should legislate on the air condition in private establishments under the health and safety law.

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In makes sense for the pubs to be all for smoking then the non-smokers have no choice.

Again I think both parties should be catered for. It is not for governments to dictate what type of customers private businesses want to cater for.

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If you take your Libertarian Freedom logic even further we would allow Crack to be smoked in pubs too.
Would you allow Crack to be smoked in pubs then?

If crack was a legal substance that you could buy from any newsagent and it didn’t have mind altering substances in it I would but as it is an illegal product, no.

The market dosnt cater for everyone needs.
When it dosnt the State must.

Wouldnt you legalise crack?

This-England · 06-02-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

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Originally Posted by This-England

There is a huge demand for non-smoking pubs in my area that’s why everyone I know who doesn’t smoke backs the ban.
The Smokers of course oppose the ban. (self interest again)

I oppose the ban and I'm a non-smoker.
Mrs B opposes the ban and she's a non-smoker.
My sister opposes the ban and she's a non-smoking publican with her head screwed on. If she thought her business would benefit from going non-smoking she would have already done it, legislation or not. As it is, she will be obliged to comply with legislation which she sees as contrary to her business interests.

So you see the market dosnt cater for the non-smokers needs.

Westcountryman · 06-02-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by This-England

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

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Originally Posted by This-England

There is a huge demand for non-smoking pubs in my area that’s why everyone I know who doesn’t smoke backs the ban.
The Smokers of course oppose the ban. (self interest again)

I oppose the ban and I'm a non-smoker.
Mrs B opposes the ban and she's a non-smoker.
My sister opposes the ban and she's a non-smoking publican with her head screwed on. If she thought her business would benefit from going non-smoking she would have already done it, legislation or not. As it is, she will be obliged to comply with legislation which she sees as contrary to her business interests.

So you see the market dosnt cater for the non-smokers needs.

It would if there was sufficient demand.

This-England · 06-02-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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Originally Posted by This-England

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

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Originally Posted by This-England

There is a huge demand for non-smoking pubs in my area that’s why everyone I know who doesn’t smoke backs the ban.
The Smokers of course oppose the ban. (self interest again)

I oppose the ban and I'm a non-smoker.
Mrs B opposes the ban and she's a non-smoker.
My sister opposes the ban and she's a non-smoking publican with her head screwed on. If she thought her business would benefit from going non-smoking she would have already done it, legislation or not. As it is, she will be obliged to comply with legislation which she sees as contrary to her business interests.

So you see the market dosnt cater for the non-smokers needs.

It would if there was sufficient demand.

As I said their is far more to peoples choice of pub than whether you can smoke in there.
Besides people have friends who smoke who wouldnt attend a non-smoking pub.

Westcountryman · 06-02-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by This-England

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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Originally Posted by This-England

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

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Originally Posted by This-England

There is a huge demand for non-smoking pubs in my area that’s why everyone I know who doesn’t smoke backs the ban.
The Smokers of course oppose the ban. (self interest again)

I oppose the ban and I'm a non-smoker.
Mrs B opposes the ban and she's a non-smoker.
My sister opposes the ban and she's a non-smoking publican with her head screwed on. If she thought her business would benefit from going non-smoking she would have already done it, legislation or not. As it is, she will be obliged to comply with legislation which she sees as contrary to her business interests.

So you see the market dosnt cater for the non-smokers needs.

It would if there was sufficient demand.

As I said their is far more to peoples choice of pub than whether you can smoke in there.
Besides people have friends who smoke who wouldnt attend a non-smoking pub.

Precisely - you can't have your cake and eat it. If you like a pub because it has good food, but it allows smoking - then by going to eat there you waive your right to complain about the smoke. Anyway, as I said, most pubs have segregated sections - if not separate rooms for smoking and non-smoking.

This-England · 06-02-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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Originally Posted by This-England

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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Originally Posted by This-England

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

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Originally Posted by This-England

There is a huge demand for non-smoking pubs in my area that’s why everyone I know who doesn’t smoke backs the ban.
The Smokers of course oppose the ban. (self interest again)

I oppose the ban and I'm a non-smoker.
Mrs B opposes the ban and she's a non-smoker.
My sister opposes the ban and she's a non-smoking publican with her head screwed on. If she thought her business would benefit from going non-smoking she would have already done it, legislation or not. As it is, she will be obliged to comply with legislation which she sees as contrary to her business interests.

So you see the market dosnt cater for the non-smokers needs.

It would if there was sufficient demand.

As I said their is far more to peoples choice of pub than whether you can smoke in there.
Besides people have friends who smoke who wouldnt attend a non-smoking pub.

Precisely - you can't have your cake and eat it. If you like a pub because it has good food, but it allows smoking - then by going to eat there you waive your right to complain about the smoke. Anyway, as I said, most pubs have segregated sections - if not separate rooms for smoking and non-smoking.

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Precisely - you can't have your cake and eat it

Of course I can as it soon will be banned.

Westcountryman · 06-02-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by This-England

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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Originally Posted by This-England

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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Originally Posted by This-England

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Originally Posted by Besoeker

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Originally Posted by This-England

There is a huge demand for non-smoking pubs in my area that’s why everyone I know who doesn’t smoke backs the ban.
The Smokers of course oppose the ban. (self interest again)

I oppose the ban and I'm a non-smoker.
Mrs B opposes the ban and she's a non-smoker.
My sister opposes the ban and she's a non-smoking publican with her head screwed on. If she thought her business would benefit from going non-smoking she would have already done it, legislation or not. As it is, she will be obliged to comply with legislation which she sees as contrary to her business interests.

So you see the market dosnt cater for the non-smokers needs.

It would if there was sufficient demand.

As I said their is far more to peoples choice of pub than whether you can smoke in there.
Besides people have friends who smoke who wouldnt attend a non-smoking pub.

Precisely - you can't have your cake and eat it. If you like a pub because it has good food, but it allows smoking - then by going to eat there you waive your right to complain about the smoke. Anyway, as I said, most pubs have segregated sections - if not separate rooms for smoking and non-smoking.

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Precisely - you can't have your cake and eat it

Of course I can as it soon will be banned.

I hope everyone breaks it. :twisted:

devilskitchen · 07-02-2007, 12:48 PM

If Scotland is anything to go by, people will just accept it.

It's a pain and naturally I oppose the ban, but it has to be said that some bars are much more pleasant when smoke-free!

07-02-2007, 12:48 PM	#39 (permalink)
devilskitchen Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London Posts: 419	If Scotland is anything to go by, people will just accept it. It's a pain and naturally I oppose the ban, but it has to be said that some bars are much more pleasant when smoke-free! __________________ Unio Europaea delenda est

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