Guardian calls us "extremist"

Anthony Butcher · 19-09-2004, 03:40 PM

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/libde...307877,00.html

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Such tactics may yet ensure that, while Dunn could force the Tories INTO phpbb_a humiliating fourth place behind the extremist UK Independence Party, Labour holds on to Peter Mandelson's old seat.

Why on Earth is the word "extremist" used there? What exactly is extreme about UKIP? Is it the immigration policy? The party is simply representing a majority of the public in its stance on stronger enforcement of immigration and asylum laws.

cynic · 18-12-2004, 01:26 AM

Extreme, meaning we are so far removed from the Guardians' mindset that they are choking on their tofu!
8)

Intbel · 18-12-2004, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cynic

Extreme, meaning we are so far removed from the Guardians' mindset that they are choking on their tofu!
8)

What gets me is the sub-header, quote:

Lib Dems face internal struggle as they decide whether a shift to the left will harm general election chances

Either one has firm, meaningful policies or one doesn't.

Julian Morrison · 18-12-2004, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher

Why on Earth is the word "extremist" used there?

It's a political centrist codeword meaning "anyone who doesn't take 99% of the status quo as read, and compete solely in terms of minor tweaks to the remaining 1%".

As a concept, it's the reason for the demise of the Tories: the political center is now so far left-nanny-authoritarian that they have no remaining 1% of wiggle room.

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Originally Posted by Intbel

Either one has firm, meaningful policies or one doesn't.

The libdems have a firm meaningful policy: they'd like to see proportional representation. This would lead to more libdems playing kingmaker in coalition governments.

Other than that, they've always blown in the wind, everywhere from Libertarian to left-of-Lenin.

gimlet · 18-12-2004, 08:24 AM

Is it not about time that the Guardian was formally asked to explain why they use the term extremist to discribe UKIP, and in what context?

Intbel · 18-12-2004, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gimlet

Is it not about time that the Guardian was formally asked to explain why they use the term extremist to discribe UKIP, and in what context?

It is - please do remember to let us know what reply you receive

Nationalist · 18-12-2004, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/libdems2004/story/0,14992,1307877,00.html

Quote:

Such tactics may yet ensure that, while Dunn could force the Tories INTO phpbb_a humiliating fourth place behind the extremist UK Independence Party, Labour holds on to Peter Mandelson's old seat.

Why on Earth is the word "extremist" used there? What exactly is extreme about UKIP? Is it the immigration policy? The party is simply representing a majority of the public in its stance on stronger enforcement of immigration and asylum laws.

Do you really need this to be answered. The Guardian are notorious left wing labour supporters. Extremist is a word more associated with the evil BNP. The UKIP are a threat to the labour party so the Guardian use their influence to slander the the UKIP so people lump them in with the BNP.

Unfortunately most people believe exactly what is printed in whatever paper they buy.

Mystic Taboo · 18-12-2004, 11:53 AM

Oh faarrckk the Guardian!

Johnny Hates Jazz · 18-12-2004, 01:07 PM

I think the way that the Guardian report is pathetic.

Most normal people can see through this use of unnecessary adjectivies.

UKIP is NOT an extremist party - just normal people try to represent an opinion.

johnwest · 18-12-2004, 02:32 PM

The Guardian has always been a very left-wing paper. They call us 'extremist' because they don't have any real arguments as to why people should not vote for us. They throw mud at us in the hope it will stick. Pathetic!

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cynic Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 127	Taking it to the Extreme. Extreme, meaning we are so far removed from the Guardians' mindset that they are choking on their tofu! 8)

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18-12-2004, 08:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
gimlet Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Shropshire Posts: 833	Is it not about time that the Guardian was formally asked to explain why they use the term extremist to discribe UKIP, and in what context?

18-12-2004, 11:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mystic Taboo Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 32	Oh faarrckk the Guardian!

18-12-2004, 01:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
Johnny Hates Jazz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,976 Party: English Democrats	I think the way that the Guardian report is pathetic. Most normal people can see through this use of unnecessary adjectivies. UKIP is NOT an extremist party - just normal people try to represent an opinion.

18-12-2004, 02:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
johnwest Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Suffolk Posts: 827 Party: UKIP	The Guardian has always been a very left-wing paper. They call us 'extremist' because they don't have any real arguments as to why people should not vote for us. They throw mud at us in the hope it will stick. Pathetic!