Abolish council tax?

British-Conservatism · 09-10-2008, 05:55 PM

Should we abolish council tax and if so what should it be replaced with?

John Connor · 09-10-2008, 06:26 PM

Yes, abolish it.

Replace it with funds from central coffers (funded from sales tax), according to some kind of population density formula.

This will have the side effect of evening out the north/south divide.

British-Conservatism · 09-10-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by John Connor

Yes, abolish it.

Replace it with funds from central coffers (funded from sales tax), according to some kind of population density formula.

This will have the side effect of evening out the north/south divide.

I would abolish it.
It raises £24 billion.
This could be covered with an end to foreign aid, EU withdrawal, ending of all funding to sexual and ethnic minority groups, centralisation of council services and an end to all money spent on immigrants and asylum seekers.

Kevin Adamson · 09-10-2008, 07:38 PM

It should be reduced by at least half.There are too many employees on the council gravytrain.

John Connor · 09-10-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

I would abolish it.
It raises £24 billion.

We spend, what, £150bn a year on ponces telling us what to do. I'm sure we could lose a few of those.

Little Englander (sour) · 09-10-2008, 11:41 PM

Abolish all existing taxes and impose a one tier 10% purchase tax on everything.

BonnieDundee · 10-10-2008, 04:17 AM

I'd probably replace it with an LVT but certainly not centralise things. Local taxes should fund local expenses as much as is possible.

Chip · 10-10-2008, 07:52 AM

Abolish it and make it illegal to reintroduce it. It is a license for the socialists to print money ,create meaningless jobs, hound the public by introducing idiotic p.c. laws. Huge amounts of money raised are wasted . It is an evil tax on your money that you have already paid tax on. If your Council tax is £1000 per year you will have to earn £1300 to pay for it! and you get nothing!!!!!!!On top of this they have rigged the law so you have to pay or go to jail irrespective of your age and then you still owe the money when you get out of jail.

Replace it?? No. It should be income tax derived based on the ability to pay. Coupled to this Central Government should not hide central taxation in Council finances. Council finances must only relate with local requirement. (Why should Councils finance housing and benifits for the failed central government immigration policies?)

angelman · 10-10-2008, 10:00 AM

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Should we abolish council tax and if so what should it be replaced with?

Yes, abolish it and replace with a poll tax. What is wrong with levying a tax on each person. It may be regressive but then those who earn more, usually have higher tax bills so pay in other areas. Failing that might as well keep it. No form of local taxation is ideal. Maybe we should go back and reintroduce the Window Tax. For those that don't know it "The tax was introduced under the Act of Making Good the Deficiency of the Clipped Money in 1696 under King William III[1] and was designed to impose tax relative to the prosperity of the taxpayer, but without the controversy that then surrounded the idea of income tax. At that time, many people in Britain opposed income tax, on principle, because they believed that the disclosure of personal income represented an unacceptable government intrusion into private matters, and a potential threat to personal liberty.[citation needed] In fact the first British income tax was not introduced until the late 18th century and the issue remained intensely controversial well into the 19th century"
Window tax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I like the bit about people not wanting to disclose their income as they thought it governmental intrusion.

I think that the LibDems idea is the most concerning. They want to get rid of it and then introduce a local income tax. What is the point of this? People are already paying income tax to central government, they don't need one to be introduced so that local government can fritter it away and top up their pension.

British-Conservatism · 10-10-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

I'd probably replace it with an LVT but certainly not centralise things. Local taxes should fund local expenses as much as is possible.

Only 20% of things are funded by local taxes now anyway.
80% of funds come from central government.

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Kevin Adamson Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Surrey Posts: 888 Party: UKIP	It should be reduced by at least half.There are too many employees on the council gravytrain.

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Chip Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North West UK Posts: 597	Abolish it and make it illegal to reintroduce it. It is a license for the socialists to print money ,create meaningless jobs, hound the public by introducing idiotic p.c. laws. Huge amounts of money raised are wasted . It is an evil tax on your money that you have already paid tax on. If your Council tax is £1000 per year you will have to earn £1300 to pay for it! and you get nothing!!!!!!!On top of this they have rigged the law so you have to pay or go to jail irrespective of your age and then you still owe the money when you get out of jail. Replace it?? No. It should be income tax derived based on the ability to pay. Coupled to this Central Government should not hide central taxation in Council finances. Council finances must only relate with local requirement. (Why should Councils finance housing and benifits for the failed central government immigration policies?)