British-Conservatism

Dosnt matter what you say or do the Left will still use violence to stop any anti-immigrant organisation.

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angelman

what is worse - a nationalist party (with perceived fascist tendencies) or an anarchist group determined to stop the nationalists? one seems to be legal (albeit distasteful to many) and one is illegal (distasteful to nearly all).

david H

Wowbanger, with respect, you are missing the point. Bonnie thinks like that because it is the establishment orthodoxy and he/she can not possibly have an original thought. That would be risky.

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BonnieDundee

My general political outlook is quite rare. Have you ever considered I actually hold these views because I have decided they are correct after searching deeply? Ie that I don't believe homosexuality is wrong because some Hebrew mythology says so or that race is that important.

You seem to have this almost anti-PC PC David. If someone doesn't agree with you you label them PC or Orthodox with little justification. I'm far more anti-establishment that you are.

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Leopold Kohr.

BonnieDundee

Well I don't really get that when I say mass immigration should be reduced and that Western cultures should be preserved, at least to some degree. I get disagreements from silly people who see nothing wrong with say Tower Hamlet's schools having Eid off which is astounding to me but no real virulent hostility because I don't come across as someone who actually bases my views on irrational dislike or the feelings of superiority to these groups.

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Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

British-Conservatism

How many is a mass?

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BonnieDundee

3 and a half.

I don't know, not enough so that they can't be generally absorbed into our society, culture, tradition and identity.

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Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

British-Conservatism

Well I think you should know since you oppose it.
What is your cut off point 10? 10,000, 100,000 a year ? what?

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Wowbanger TIP

You keep saying that anarchists are inclined towards peaceful behavior as if they were Buddhist monks (who can turn nasty in the right circumstances themselves).

The whole point of anarchism to not to recognize or comply with authority imposed without consent. This means accepting anarchism means rejecting any external moral compulsion, so if the anarchist decides violence is legitimate then there is nothing to stop him using it.

This is not just an application of general anarchist principles, it is fundamental to the ideology. The second responsibility taken on by the state (after collective defense) was the administration of "justice" and this is where any anarchist worth his salt will tell you it all went wrong. A view I am sympathetic to incidentally.

This history of anarchism is littered with acts of violence, particularly in nineteenth century Russia where it enjoyed one of its infrequent high points. Also in the Spanish civil war. In modern Britain anarchism is synonymous with violence.

Socialism also has deep connections with political violence, the whole revolution/direct action thing is explicitly violent. However most systems of socialist thought demand a high degree of compulsion "from each ..... whether he likes it or not". It also emphasis's all sorts of "re-education" as well as demanding a socialist world. The diametric opposite of anarchism.

The traditional alliance of socialist and anarchists comes not from the ideology but a similarity of personality between the two groups as well as the adoption of a lot of the prejudices of the far left by anarchists.

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London Orbital

Firstly I didn't write the piece. It came from the source I mentioned.

Since I believe this forum has a policy of not linking to BNP sites, I didn't make the link which would have made this fact clear.

Secondly, I think the term fascist will do very well for people who try to prevent others from having a peaceful meeting by using violent force and intimidation.

The BNP do not try to stop others having meetings, since they actually believe in freedom of speech.

Therefore there is no particular difficulty in the BNP 'throwing around' that term.

It was the opinion of the writer that this was the work of local anarchists insofar as these people do actually call themselves anarchists.

Of course this event may have had nothing to do with the group of people the writer is thinking of - in which case, of course, they are being unjustly accused.

But if it was them, then - agreed - they are a rather peculiar sort of anarchist.

A few silly people met a few silly people?

Indeed - and sometimes one must reply to their comments.