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View Poll Results: Is the amount of BNP (and far-right) support on this forum currently excessive?
Yes 16 47.06%
No 18 52.94%
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is the amount of BNP support on this forum excessive? Decent posters are leaving in droves, partly, I imagine, because of the rising BNP and far-right presence here. If a majority votes 'no' then I will shut up about the BNP on this forum and allow them their free speech. If most vote 'yes', I hope it will inspire mods and admins to have a think.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It is attracting more and more nationalists of the extreme kind, among whom will be BNP supporters (but I would not say it is the BNP alone).

The rules are a bit hazy in my view. People get away with promoting racist and antisemitic ideas as long as they don't say "Join the BNP". That means that they constantly stretch the boundaries further, thus encouraging others of like mind to join the forum.

Unfortunately a lot of UKIP supporters and others have an unhealthy obsession with issues such as immigration and identity, which naturally opens the door to more hardline posters bringing in ideas about 'race' and ethnicity.
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It is attracting more and more nationalists of the extreme kind, among whom will be BNP supporters (but I would not say it is the BNP alone).

The rules are a bit hazy in my view. People get away with promoting racist and antisemitic ideas as long as they don't say "Join the BNP". That means that they constantly stretch the boundaries further, thus encouraging others of like mind to join the forum.

Unfortunately a lot of UKIP supporters and others have an unhealthy obsession with issues such as immigration and identity, which naturally opens the door to more hardline posters bringing in ideas about 'race' and ethnicity.
Yes; this is why I wrote "the amount of BNP (and far-right) support" in my question title. Of course any racist, xenophobic and antisemitic ideas should be classed as such.
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Yes; this is why I wrote "the amount of BNP (and far-right) support" in my question title. Of course any racist, xenophobic and antisemitic ideas should be classed as such.
Sorry, I didn't notice that the poll question was slightly different to the thread title.
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I think given the situation in Stoke, Barking and Dagenham and elsewhere it is perhaps proportional to the support the party and the so called ´far-right´ have in society as a whole.

A few years few people would publicly admit to voting for the BNP, even I wouldn´t have just five years ago. However, it seems many people are open about it these days, and rarely will I find somebody who will object vociferously. People are awakening to the reality we face.
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The problem with these tender ones is they mistake the rise in Nationalism in general for excessive BNP prescence on here. Next breath they say no one really supports the BNP. There are several nationalists on here like me who are not in the BNP and identify with the Conservative Nationalist tradition. The reality is that nationalism is the rising political belief and you trying to stop it are like Cnut trying to stop the sea. You are out of time folks - you have been left behind.

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The problem with these tender ones is they mistake the rise in Nationalism in general for excessive BNP prescence on here. Next breath they say no one really supports the BNP. There are several nationalists on here like me who are not in the BNP and identify with the Conservative Nationalist tradition. The reality is that nationalism is the rising political belief and you trying to stop it are like Cnut trying to stop the sea. You are out of time folks - you have been left behind.
Look at the question title, Ken: " Is the amount of BNP (and far-right) support on this forum currently excessive?" Does that satisfy you? Please don't just read between the lines - actually exert yourself a bit before you go spewing out your ramblings. Da?
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It is attracting more and more nationalists of the extreme kind, among whom will be BNP supporters (but I would not say it is the BNP alone).

The rules are a bit hazy in my view. People get away with promoting racist and antisemitic ideas as long as they don't say "Join the BNP". That means that they constantly stretch the boundaries further, thus encouraging others of like mind to join the forum.

Unfortunately a lot of UKIP supporters and others have an unhealthy obsession with issues such as immigration and identity, which naturally opens the door to more hardline posters bringing in ideas about 'race' and ethnicity.
Considering you are of the opinion that BNP or 'far-right' supporters are stretching boundaries, I believe you are deliberately trying to provoke such supporters to retaliate. Thus 'proving' your point.

There have been instances on other Forums where someone has deliberately started arguments about Semitism, waiting for the right responses that will enable them to report another 'anti-semitic' attack to the CST.

Given the subject matter of some of your latest posts, and your refusal to reply to the answers returned, I am of the opinion that you are one such person. Am I wrong?
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In what sense was I in error?
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You weren't "in error", but I accounted for the sorts you describe in my question title.
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