The rise of the liberals

Millennium3 · 12-05-2008, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperiorSteve

I just think sometimes it's better to launch a new party, clean slate, policies that really help people.

Many people who support the LP also support the welfare state. I disagree with the welfare state as it encourages lost production.

I don't know that I agree with you, but if you want to abolish it you have to come up with a persuasive argument to obtain sufficient support to achieve your ends.

I would have thought that the LP was more open to persuasive argument than most political groups.

SuperiorSteve · 12-05-2008, 06:26 AM

Many people support the welfare state, that is their choice. It is my personal opinion that everyone should work and not rely on the dole, but saying that there are people who find it difficult to obtain employment so it's one of those issues that has good arguments for both sides.

The LP are probably the most democratic of all Parties which is why I plan to work alongside them but many Parties also state that you cannot be a member of another political Party, something I am very much against as I think a person should be able to join as many similar groups as they choose.

kernow · 20-05-2008, 12:27 AM

The words "Liberal Party" attracts people until they read the manefesto!

mkpdavies · 20-05-2008, 08:23 AM

I think Socialist Liberals would be a fairer description.

They are still better than the old lot though.

Akria · 20-05-2008, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperiorSteve

Many people support the welfare state, that is their choice. It is my personal opinion that everyone should work and not rely on the dole, but saying that there are people who find it difficult to obtain employment so it's one of those issues that has good arguments for both sides.

The LP are probably the most democratic of all Parties which is why I plan to work alongside them but many Parties also state that you cannot be a member of another political Party, something I am very much against as I think a person should be able to join as many similar groups as they choose.

What of those who have difficulty working or are otherwise engaged in something else productive as education?

For_England · 20-05-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ryansoton

In Southampton we have the re-launch of The Liberal Party and 2 ne liberal parties launching The Social Liberal party and The Economic Liberal Party.

All we seeing this rise of the liberals?

You have within yourselves the seeds of your own destruction. The Muslim invaders don't have time for weak notions that ignore the realities of life, and should liberalism in any of its forms continue to influence public policy, you will be swept permanently away under the sword of Islam.

Hartlepool · 20-05-2008, 06:54 PM

So very true.

And so it is written.

ryansoton · 20-05-2008, 08:38 PM

Im in discussions with one of the leader of one of the parties about joining the Liberal Party and have contacted the other to start discussions.

AroundtheWorld · 09-07-2008, 09:24 AM

Rise of the liberals...sounds kind of ironic.

Dilke · 09-07-2008, 07:41 PM

Not so much as one member one vote, as one member one party!

So we have the Progressive Liberal Party

), the National Liberals

, the Economic Liberal Party, and the (we are the real) Liberal Party (UKIP Lite)

We used to have in the seventies the New Liberal Party, in the eighties Liberal 88 and the Free Trade Liberal Party (both standing in parliamentary by elections), in the nineties the new Liberal Unionists

So yes a rise in people appropriating the name Liberal, for micro-parties.

Only two British political parties are affiliated to the Liberal International – the Liberal Democrats and the Alliance Party.

12-05-2008, 06:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
SuperiorSteve Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southampton Posts: 693	Many people support the welfare state, that is their choice. It is my personal opinion that everyone should work and not rely on the dole, but saying that there are people who find it difficult to obtain employment so it's one of those issues that has good arguments for both sides. The LP are probably the most democratic of all Parties which is why I plan to work alongside them but many Parties also state that you cannot be a member of another political Party, something I am very much against as I think a person should be able to join as many similar groups as they choose. __________________ "Remember that you are an Englishman, and have consequently won first prize in the lottery of life" Cecil Rhodes

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,034 Party: Libertarian Party	I think Socialist Liberals would be a fairer description. They are still better than the old lot though. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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AroundtheWorld Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 7	Rise of the liberals...sounds kind of ironic. Last edited by AroundtheWorld; 09-07-2008 at 09:24 AM. Reason: my smiley malfunctioned on me :)

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20-05-2008, 12:27 AM	#13 (permalink)
kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,182	The words "Liberal Party" attracts people until they read the manefesto!

20-05-2008, 06:54 PM	#17 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,814 Party: Popular Democrats	So very true. And so it is written.

20-05-2008, 08:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
ryansoton Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 781 Party: Other	Im in discussions with one of the leader of one of the parties about joining the Liberal Party and have contacted the other to start discussions.

09-07-2008, 07:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
Dilke Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Westcountry Posts: 56 Party: Other	Not so much as one member one vote, as one member one party! So we have the Progressive Liberal Party ), the National Liberals , the Economic Liberal Party, and the (we are the real) Liberal Party (UKIP Lite) We used to have in the seventies the New Liberal Party, in the eighties Liberal 88 and the Free Trade Liberal Party (both standing in parliamentary by elections), in the nineties the new Liberal Unionists So yes a rise in people appropriating the name Liberal, for micro-parties. Only two British political parties are affiliated to the Liberal International – the Liberal Democrats and the Alliance Party.