Question Who Should Be the Next Labour Leader?

Chip · 03-06-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Roland

I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my life. Brown is an out and out communist.

Brown thinks that all money made in this country should be the states and then the state should redirect it to where the state thinks it should best go.

Brown clearly believes in centralized government where decisions are in his opinion made best.

Brown believes in ID cards, longer detention times, biometrics.

Brown does not care for or listen to the people of his country.

Brown believes he/government should tell us what to eat,drink, smoke, how much we should weigh and when we die what should happen to our spare parts.

Brown is a socialist I dread to think what he'd be like if the country could not vote him out.

Well said. I agree 100% with this statement.

May I suggest to replace Brown. Micky Mouse and / or Goofy. At least we might get a laugh for our wasted money and the Government would not notice the difference.

Roland · 06-06-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chip

Well said. I agree 100% with this statement.

May I suggest to replace Brown. Micky Mouse and / or Goofy. At least we might get a laugh for our wasted money and the Government would not notice the difference.

Micky Mouse and Goofy could form a coalition party that way they'd appeal to a wider spectrum of the sheep (er I mean voters) and probably win over Gordon I'm a communist Brown.

To be fair they probaly would be able to deal with problems on both a national and international level as well as those now running the country.

When I was young and would watch question time the politicians for all their faults, differences and political biases all struck me as though they were passionate about thier views and weren't scared to say what they thought.

It's just amazing we have a conservative party to scared to say they want to reduce public spending because they don't want to admit it means cuts in public services and the loss of public sector workers jobs which I'm pretty sure our their true intentions.

And a labour party who seem to think the country is a big university and the people of the country our the students. They're not the likes of Tony Ben or Kinnock who we may disagree with but at least they would except the decision of the people. They were not political classes that thought they new better because they had a PHD in social studies (or indoctrination studies) and therefore know whats best for every one.

Sorry just had to have a rant.

Hunter · 07-06-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unionist

.......follow-up post which seems to confirm my fears.

What fears would those by???

Alex McKee · 07-06-2008, 06:24 PM

Who should be the next Labour Party leader?
David Cameron.

Perhaps he too can skip an election - this time a general election.

Chip · 07-06-2008, 08:42 PM

I think , to be fair, we should first put down what are the criteria for a labour leader. Once we have the full listing then we can search the prisons, er sorry, the personnel files to see who fits the bill.
My criteria:

Dishonest
vain
greedy
stupid
hypocritical
thinks he / she is God.

There must be more. Any one have any suggestions?

HM · 07-06-2008, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

I think , to be fair, we should first put down what are the criteria for a labour leader. Once we have the full listing then we can search the prisons, er sorry, the personnel files to see who fits the bill.
My criteria:

Dishonest
vain
greedy
stupid
hypocritical
thinks he / she is God.

There must be more. Any one have any suggestions?

Scottish. That's a must for New Labour.

Internationalist · 07-06-2008, 11:00 PM

To answer the question in terms of who has the capabilities from the Labour party's perspective, David Miliband must be the strongest candidate right now. He is intellectually capable, is acceptable to both the Blair and Brown camps (if those terms mean anything now) and represents the next generation (unlike, say, Charles Clarke or Jack Straw).

Alan Johnson would be well positioned if a vacancy were to arise very soon.

There was talk of Miliband become the EU's 'foreign minister', which would of course knock him out of the race for the succession.

HM · 07-06-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Unionist

To answer the question in terms of who has the capabilities from the Labour party's perspective, David Miliband must be the strongest candidate right now. He is intellectually capable, is acceptable to both the Blair and Brown camps (if those terms mean anything now) and represents the next generation (unlike, say, Charles Clarke or Jack Straw).

Alan Johnson would be well positioned if a vacancy were to arise very soon.

There was talk of Miliband become the EU's 'foreign minister', which would of course knock him out of the race for the succession.

Miliband was very poor on the latest Question Time, I thought, and were he to take over, I think Cameron would grill him like a cajun chicken at PMQs. But I agree that he's the best they've got.

JM Glenn · 14-07-2008, 12:12 AM

Alan Johnson would be the best of the lot. He's senior enough to know what he's doing and junior enough not to be any of Brown's problems. Also with his background it seems he'd be most in touch with Labour's core electorate and he generally strikes me as a fairly sincere and genuine person.
I'd also be tempted to vote Labour if Hilary Benn was in charge, he's quite impressive and seems more left wing then the rest of the party who can't stop fighting for centre ground.
My money would be on David Miliband, who I don't especially like or support.

Dissident Congress · 14-07-2008, 12:52 AM

DC is convinced that Gordon Brown is a committed globalist capitalist, albeit it with an authoritarian stance masquerading as socialism. This is to trick people into thinking he is a hardline socialist when his economic stance is from the same mould as Thatcher.

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07-06-2008, 08:42 PM	#45 (permalink)
Chip Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North West UK Posts: 586	I think , to be fair, we should first put down what are the criteria for a labour leader. Once we have the full listing then we can search the prisons, er sorry, the personnel files to see who fits the bill. My criteria: Dishonest vain greedy stupid hypocritical thinks he / she is God. There must be more. Any one have any suggestions?

07-06-2008, 11:00 PM	#47 (permalink)
Internationalist Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,063	To answer the question in terms of who has the capabilities from the Labour party's perspective, David Miliband must be the strongest candidate right now. He is intellectually capable, is acceptable to both the Blair and Brown camps (if those terms mean anything now) and represents the next generation (unlike, say, Charles Clarke or Jack Straw). Alan Johnson would be well positioned if a vacancy were to arise very soon. There was talk of Miliband become the EU's 'foreign minister', which would of course knock him out of the race for the succession.

14-07-2008, 12:12 AM	#49 (permalink)
JM Glenn Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8 Party: None	Alan Johnson would be the best of the lot. He's senior enough to know what he's doing and junior enough not to be any of Brown's problems. Also with his background it seems he'd be most in touch with Labour's core electorate and he generally strikes me as a fairly sincere and genuine person. I'd also be tempted to vote Labour if Hilary Benn was in charge, he's quite impressive and seems more left wing then the rest of the party who can't stop fighting for centre ground. My money would be on David Miliband, who I don't especially like or support.