Thread: Intergration and celebrating diversity

At school I was encouraged to celebrate Diwali, Eid and various other celebrations and I openly refused to do so under the fact my religion is not Hindu/Sikh or Islam. I won't attend the Notting Hill Carnival because I am not black and do not relate to Afro-Caribbean culture.

To me eating a curry, wearing traditional clothing and setting off firework, after firework doesn't equate to me as embracing another culture. It is taking the best bits of that culture and diluting them into a concept known as multi-culturalism.

Also, I don't know what English culture is, I have never been taught about English culture. Surely, it has to be more than eating a plate of fish and chips, drinking beer in an English beer garden, supporting the football team a few times a year and waving a flag around?

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

It gets on my tits when I have one set of people telling me we should be a strong traditional mono-cultured country and another bunch telling me we should be a vibrant multi-cultured one.

We should be what ever WE as individuals want to be, within a free framework that simply protects us from actually hurting each other. When I mean hurt, I mean hurt too, not simply offend or annoy.

I think people should be able to discriminate as much as they want with their businesses, or not if that's their wish. For me, any business should want the best talent and to be able fish from the largest possible customer pool. If some racist wants to run a whites only pub, then that should be his choice. People who don't like that, can avoid.

Now I will get to the controvertial part of this post.

Currently we are told we must embrace other cultures, celebrate them and support them. Well what about our culture? How much celebrating of OUR culture and traditions do other cultures that have landed here do.

Well I am going to give you some observations.

Pubs.

90% of the pubs I have been in seem to be very white British to me. Much more than the make up of the area I may be in. Even in London I notice this and the only place I have every been where there was a slight shift, was Wembley and that seemed to be more of a food thing causing that.

Concerts.

Glastonbury. Go have a look at the BBC iplayer stuff for this musical festival. Notice anything missing? Yep, I didn't see many non-white people at all.

Prodigy. I didn't see a single non-white person there, even though one of the singers is black.

Take That. 80 000 people there last night, yet as I looked out, I couldn't see any non-white people. I am sure there must have been a few, but I didn't see them.


So why do the powers that be try to force this idea that we should all "celebrate" each others cultures. Why can't we all just choose the culture that fits our own personality best and run with that? Of course, some cultures have a dominating element to them. They want to force people into following them = fascism. How about we address that issue and make sure that doesn't happen here and then let people do their own thing.

The whole concept of celebrating cultures is a joke.

Unfortunately society doesn’t exist as individual automatons.
To forge a united society it must made up of certain people.
Of course I would imagine many Libertarians go along with Thatcher on this - "society does not exist".

Originally Posted by Little Englander (sour)

Englishness isn't something with which you label yourself, it's not English so to do.
Other people will tell what they see in you as being English.
You don't have to define Englishness it's a feeling, you have it or you have it not.
Whether or not you are English - is another matter.
Is Scottishness wearing a kilt with nae underpants?

I don't have it.

The fact is, immigrants are not here to embrace our culture, they are here to make money, in the same way as the British didn't go to India to embrace Indian, for example, culture, they went there to make money.
I think that the multiculturalists find it difficult to accept that immigration is entirely about making money. Invariably left wing, they aren't really comfortable with the idea of anyone making money.
So they invent multiculturalism, they tell themselves and anyone who cares to listen that immigration is about diversity, which they claim is desirable.
The multiculturalists will probably happily agree with my statement that the British went to India to make money, and not to embrace Indian culture, because it coincides with their views about British colonialism.
But they have a major problem accepting that Asian - in fact all - immigrants are here to make money, and are not here to embrace British culture.

Originally Posted by Better Britain

Multi cultralism becomes multi ghettoism a bad idea indeed, they should never have let these unwashed rable of johnny foriegners in.

How short-sighted. Not every foreigner is 'unwashed rabble' who come to Britain to "sponge off the state". Many do the jobs that British people deem beneath them. I also take offence to what I view as direct and personal insult to my family line. I am after all second generation British on both sides of my family. Shame on you for pigeon holing every immigrant into the same category.