How do we bring about English Independence?

SilverFalcon · 11-10-2008, 09:15 AM

In case some normal folk don't know who "tarnished owl" is, I shall contribute what the fountainhead of prophecy really doesn't want to hear.

How to bring about English Independence:

1) By making English people aware of themselves as English and not just as "human". Allowing the species connection to override ethnic reality can lead to apathy when the wolf comes to the door. (Which it has and hardly anyone is bothering to question why it's there or what it may want of them. Perhaps they have been so well schooled as to see the wolf as human too, just "different". The wolf isn't even a wolf, it is always an omen and when people can no longer recognise an omen they are in deep trouble.)

2) By taking an awareness of the significance and importance of an English identity to the people through various channels of communication, such as literature, talks, interviews, web sites, blogs, political activism, etc. As many who criticise know full well, the best method is propaganda.

3) Propaganda, with respect to point no. 2.

4) Example. Speaking out, stepping forward, accepting roles and tasks in the community and for the community, in a myriad of ways creates high profiling and gets the message across, if I may re-use one of Nu Labour's favourite jingles. They work like galley slaves to get the message across, don't they? Hercules has nothing on Nu Labour.

And NU Labour has a whole national broadcasting service at its beck and call to promote itself and its ideology morning, noon and night, so the competition is pretty fierce and the inequality of it all quite mind boggling - provided people notice and haven't just become willing servants of Big Brother.

5) Don't back down when challenged about being English, the significance of independence or the pseudo moral implications of "racism" in this regard. Watch out for those documentaries that will turn up conveniently at these times and deal with genocidal historical horrors, nasty nazis and beauteous knights in pink armour who want to save the world. It's all smoke and mirrors and although they may be trying hard to brainwash people by almost continually showing them humanity's bad side, they may achieve the opposite and nurture a generation soaked in hideous slaughter and racist aggression training instead. As always in this world, you should be careful what you ask for. So, if you're English, steer clear of these programmes and watch uplifting things instead, which will help to neutralise the poison and restore your faith in what is good and true.

6) Spread the word that having an identity is good, not bad and that having an identity and being interested in your folk and nation doesn't mean that you "hate" everyone else. This is possibly the most important point and should perhaps go in fist place. But, while the poison is draining out of people's systems as they slowly realise just how bad things have become, they might start by putting their toes in the water on points 1-5, and even enjoy themselves doing it - for once.

Now for the nitty gritty part - politics. If anyone is going to go in for politics as a direct way of bringing independence to England they need cast iron psychological constitutions, asbestos underwear, one eye, one arm and one ambition. Faint heart never won fair lady and England is too fair a lady to leave to the attentions of that wolf at the door.

Danny · 11-10-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverFalcon

In case some normal folk don't know who "tarnished owl" is, I shall contribute what the fountainhead of prophecy really doesn't want to hear.

How to bring about English Independence:

1) By making English people aware of themselves as English and not just as "human". Allowing the species connection to override ethnic reality can lead to apathy when the wolf comes to the door. (Which it has and hardly anyone is bothering to question why it's there or what it may want of them. Perhaps they have been so well schooled as to see the wolf as human too, just "different". The wolf isn't even a wolf, it is always an omen and when people can no longer recognise an omen they are in deep trouble.)

2) By taking an awareness of the significance and importance of an English identity to the people through various channels of communication, such as literature, talks, interviews, web sites, blogs, political activism, etc. As many who criticise know full well, the best method is propaganda.

3) Propaganda, with respect to point no. 2.

4) Example. Speaking out, stepping forward, accepting roles and tasks in the community and for the community, in a myriad of ways creates high profiling and gets the message across, if I may re-use one of Nu Labour's favourite jingles. They work like galley slaves to get the message across, don't they? Hercules has nothing on Nu Labour.

And NU Labour has a whole national broadcasting service at its beck and call to promote itself and its ideology morning, noon and night, so the competition is pretty fierce and the inequality of it all quite mind boggling - provided people notice and haven't just become willing servants of Big Brother.

5) Don't back down when challenged about being English, the significance of independence or the pseudo moral implications of "racism" in this regard. Watch out for those documentaries that will turn up conveniently at these times and deal with genocidal historical horrors, nasty nazis and beauteous knights in pink armour who want to save the world. It's all smoke and mirrors and although they may be trying hard to brainwash people by almost continually showing them humanity's bad side, they may achieve the opposite and nurture a generation soaked in hideous slaughter and racist aggression training instead. As always in this world, you should be careful what you ask for. So, if you're English, steer clear of these programmes and watch uplifting things instead, which will help to neutralise the poison and restore your faith in what is good and true.

6) Spread the word that having an identity is good, not bad and that having an identity and being interested in your folk and nation doesn't mean that you "hate" everyone else. This is possibly the most important point and should perhaps go in fist place. But, while the poison is draining out of people's systems as they slowly realise just how bad things have become, they might start by putting their toes in the water on points 1-5, and even enjoy themselves doing it - for once.

Now for the nitty gritty part - politics. If anyone is going to go in for politics as a direct way of bringing independence to England they need cast iron psychological constitutions, asbestos underwear, one eye, one arm and one ambition. Faint heart never won fair lady and England is too fair a lady to leave to the attentions of that wolf at the door.

In relation to the thread topic for debate and siverfalcons post above.Silverfalcon you make some excellent points.I think fair play from the media is so so inportant they are such powerful beasts and they can twist things etc.Just one thing this maybe going off topic but what the hell I think its inportant and I hope everybody has noticed the BNP have more or less well lets say hijacked or are attempting to hijack the pro England cause this in itself should unite all of us of to one defeat the vile BNP and promote the pro England cause in a positive moderate sensible way.

British-Conservatism · 11-10-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

In relation to the thread topic for debate and siverfalcons post above.Silverfalcon you make some excellent points.I think fair play from the media is so so inportant they are such powerful beasts and they can twist things etc.Just one thing this maybe going off topic but what the hell I think its inportant and I hope everybody has noticed the BNP have more or less well lets say hijacked or are attempting to hijack the pro England cause this in itself should unite all of us of to one defeat the vile BNP and promote the pro England cause in a positive moderate sensible way.

Whats so vile about the BNP?

Danny · 11-10-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

Whats so vile about the BNP?

I am not going to get into exchanges about my comments concerning the vile BNP.To do so would only serve to wreck this thread go and start off a thread about the BNP in another section.

British-Conservatism · 11-10-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I am not going to get into exchanges about my comments concerning the vile BNP.To do so would only serve to wreck this thread go and start off a thread about the BNP in another section.

I see so saying the BNP is "Vile" is just a pee cee im not racist but type thing.

the englishman · 11-10-2008, 02:10 PM

Cassie, I do have things to add, I was simply responding to your point. I wonder what you have added to this thread? Why jump in and attack for the sake of it? If you think a thread is no good or pointless, why not just ignore it? What are your true motives?

Andrew, I think the movement for change is already beginning with the growth of pro-English parties, but it is a powerful system we are up against and it will take time.

Danny · 11-10-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

At least we have a party......you were slung out of your last one!!!!

What a pathatic man you are Atkins.You Atkins and a few others were the ones that caused Internal strife with your constant demands for English Independence. when you were in the EDP causing endless rows etc.You then sulked when you didnt get your own way throw your dummy out of the pram and leave to start up your own party.You are nothing more than a little cry baby.

Danny · 11-10-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cassie

Doesn't matter what the EDP say or do - you'll have something negative to contribute.

High level of debate here, 'aint it!

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I totally agree with you cassie the standard of threads and debates in this section.Is Chronic FEP are that clueless about there own politics and policy Constantine asks forum members what they should do.

Danny · 11-10-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

Doesn't matter what the FEP say or do - he'll have something negative to contribute.

You are the ones(FEP) who have nothing to say or nothing to offer only negative threads and posts in debates.

the englishman · 11-10-2008, 04:05 PM

Perhaps some people are not aware of how groups work. In any well run group - be it a political party or a corporation - the leader will invite feedback from the members. This is very standard practice. In groups where the leader makes no consultation with anyone, it is called a dictatorship.

I also note that supporters of the party are happily posting in their own section, while others seem content to make attacks and criticism and then accuse others of being negative. In my experience, those who constantly need to attack others and run them down normally have a low self esteem and high fear, not to mention way too much free time! Why else would they feel a constant need to attack something that posed no threat?

11-10-2008, 02:10 PM	#26 (permalink)
the englishman Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 72	Cassie, I do have things to add, I was simply responding to your point. I wonder what you have added to this thread? Why jump in and attack for the sake of it? If you think a thread is no good or pointless, why not just ignore it? What are your true motives? Andrew, I think the movement for change is already beginning with the growth of pro-English parties, but it is a powerful system we are up against and it will take time. __________________ http://modernnationalist.blogspot.com/

11-10-2008, 04:05 PM	#30 (permalink)
the englishman Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 72	Perhaps some people are not aware of how groups work. In any well run group - be it a political party or a corporation - the leader will invite feedback from the members. This is very standard practice. In groups where the leader makes no consultation with anyone, it is called a dictatorship. I also note that supporters of the party are happily posting in their own section, while others seem content to make attacks and criticism and then accuse others of being negative. In my experience, those who constantly need to attack others and run them down normally have a low self esteem and high fear, not to mention way too much free time! Why else would they feel a constant need to attack something that posed no threat? __________________ http://modernnationalist.blogspot.com/

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11-10-2008, 09:15 AM	#21 (permalink)
SilverFalcon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,019	In case some normal folk don't know who "tarnished owl" is, I shall contribute what the fountainhead of prophecy really doesn't want to hear. How to bring about English Independence: 1) By making English people aware of themselves as English and not just as "human". Allowing the species connection to override ethnic reality can lead to apathy when the wolf comes to the door. (Which it has and hardly anyone is bothering to question why it's there or what it may want of them. Perhaps they have been so well schooled as to see the wolf as human too, just "different". The wolf isn't even a wolf, it is always an omen and when people can no longer recognise an omen they are in deep trouble.) 2) By taking an awareness of the significance and importance of an English identity to the people through various channels of communication, such as literature, talks, interviews, web sites, blogs, political activism, etc. As many who criticise know full well, the best method is propaganda. 3) Propaganda, with respect to point no. 2. 4) Example. Speaking out, stepping forward, accepting roles and tasks in the community and for the community, in a myriad of ways creates high profiling and gets the message across, if I may re-use one of Nu Labour's favourite jingles. They work like galley slaves to get the message across, don't they? Hercules has nothing on Nu Labour. And NU Labour has a whole national broadcasting service at its beck and call to promote itself and its ideology morning, noon and night, so the competition is pretty fierce and the inequality of it all quite mind boggling - provided people notice and haven't just become willing servants of Big Brother. 5) Don't back down when challenged about being English, the significance of independence or the pseudo moral implications of "racism" in this regard. Watch out for those documentaries that will turn up conveniently at these times and deal with genocidal historical horrors, nasty nazis and beauteous knights in pink armour who want to save the world. It's all smoke and mirrors and although they may be trying hard to brainwash people by almost continually showing them humanity's bad side, they may achieve the opposite and nurture a generation soaked in hideous slaughter and racist aggression training instead. As always in this world, you should be careful what you ask for. So, if you're English, steer clear of these programmes and watch uplifting things instead, which will help to neutralise the poison and restore your faith in what is good and true. 6) Spread the word that having an identity is good, not bad and that having an identity and being interested in your folk and nation doesn't mean that you "hate" everyone else. This is possibly the most important point and should perhaps go in fist place. But, while the poison is draining out of people's systems as they slowly realise just how bad things have become, they might start by putting their toes in the water on points 1-5, and even enjoy themselves doing it - for once. Now for the nitty gritty part - politics. If anyone is going to go in for politics as a direct way of bringing independence to England they need cast iron psychological constitutions, asbestos underwear, one eye, one arm and one ambition. Faint heart never won fair lady and England is too fair a lady to leave to the attentions of that wolf at the door.