How do we bring about English Independence?

SilverFalcon · 10-10-2008, 08:26 AM

That's an interesting revelation and a policy the SNP and Ireland are following, and it may be the way to go for some to regain nation status. But - in the end, that sword will be back in the stone.

cassie · 10-10-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart

You miss the point of the post, opinions were invitied by Andrew, it doesn't mean we are bereft of ideas as you claimed.

I responded to your evasion. I did not miss the point!

This whole thread is evidence of the dearth of ideas about this subject both within and without the FEP. Do try to live with this reality without making irrelevant, catty remarks!

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Northumbrian · 10-10-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

Checkout the way that Catalonia has become to all intents and purposes a nation again, but of course within the EU.

Like it or not, it's the way England will become 'independent' once again.

Sorry, but there isn't the slightest hope of EU withdrawal. The scales have fallen from my eyes.

I can live with that. Better than what we have now.

Keyser Soze · 10-10-2008, 06:33 PM

cassie,the FEP were trying to demonstate their wish for democracy by inviting suggestion and comments from all on here,we should give them credit for that,I'm not aware of any other party offering all and sundry to have input into party policy,discussions and thoughts,are you?

Northumbrian · 10-10-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

cassie,the FEP were trying to demonstate their wish for democracy by inviting suggestion and comments from all on here,we should give them credit for that,I'm not aware of any other party offering all and sundry to have input into party policy,discussions and thoughts,are you?

Doesn't matter what the FEP say or do - he'll have something negative to contribute.

cassie · 11-10-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian

Doesn't matter what the FEP say or do - he'll have something negative to contribute.

Doesn't matter what the EDP say or do - you'll have something negative to contribute.

High level of debate here, 'aint it!

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cassie · 11-10-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze

cassie,the FEP were trying to demonstrate their wish for democracy by inviting suggestion and comments from all on here,we should give them credit for that,I'm not aware of any other party offering all and sundry to have input into party policy,discussions and thoughts,are you?

Trying to demonstrate their wish for democracy eh? I guess it is asking too much to expect you to shoot me down by listing the surfeit of ideas which have appeared here; much better to digress into claims of virtuousness.

Now what have we had thus far? Let me see . . . a magazine and a forum! Simply amazing originality. Talking about trying to flog a dead horse.

Don't do old tarnished owl's trick of attacking me for pointing out a truth! Get on and address the subject of the thread for once!

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the englishman · 11-10-2008, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cassie

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What an admission . . . the FEP so bereft of ideas that it pretends to invite others to offer constructive ideas ie only those it wishes to hear!

This thread was soon seen off on the cosg forum!

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I look at it as a party leader inviting ideas from members. This is actually quite commonplace and is a sign of a healthy democracy.

cassie · 11-10-2008, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by the englishman

I look at it as a party leader inviting ideas from members. This is actually quite commonplace and is a sign of a healthy democracy.

Really? So healthy that you're another who has nothing practical to suggest, only platitudes about a healthy democracy.

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London Orbital · 11-10-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

Checkout the way that Catalonia has become to all intents and purposes a nation again, but of course within the EU.

Like it or not, it's the way England will become 'independent' once again.

Sorry, but there isn't the slightest hope of EU withdrawal. The scales have fallen from my eyes.

Catalan nationhood inside the EU is more like - say - Welsh nationhood inside the EU than any English version would ever be.

Years ago they were effectively bilingual, but increasingly schools only teach in Catalan, to the exclusion of Spanish.

Some say that Catalan professionals are starting to be poorly integrated with the rest of Spain on the basis of their relatively poor language skills.

If so this seems a rather sorry state of affairs, which perhaps has arisen from an excess of nationalist fervour.

It is surely a pointless sort of nationalism which effectively dismantles the Spanish state.

The English (or most of us) are not pressing for this sort of 'independence' at the expense of a Britain which - despite some recent protestations of victimhood - Engand has always pretty much dominated.

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10-10-2008, 08:26 AM	#11 (permalink)
SilverFalcon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,019	That's an interesting revelation and a policy the SNP and Ireland are following, and it may be the way to go for some to regain nation status. But - in the end, that sword will be back in the stone.