FEP Mob Bullying offical complaint also posted in the complaints section

Danny · 14-09-2008, 02:15 AM

FEP MOB bullying OFFICAL Complaint by Danny

Also posted in the complaints section for attention of the MODERATORS
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Dear Moderators C_steam Alex Mckee and Brendan

I am making an Offical Complaint against the FEP Mob who have posted the following in the English Democrats section.In yet another attempt at trying to get at me to bully me and force me of the forum the FEP mob have posted it in the English Democrats section thinking you the moderators wouldnt notice and its clearly being posted there to cause maximum trouble.C_steam has warned anymore of this kind of personal stuff and action would be taken Alex also warned action would be taken so did Brendan if anymore personal attacks etc were posted.C_steam even issued a warning in the FEP section and the FEP mob clearly dont care there is Evidence that I will post of a threat of harrasment by the FEP mob against three of us who post in the FEP section surely this cannot go on something has got to be done with the FEP mob.

Offical Complaint.Moderators please see below

Posted in the English Democrats section thread title sounds familier
Today, 02:51 PM #1 (permalink)
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Sounds familiar?

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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:15 am

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Originally Posted by staffsman
Aslan
That was the biggest rant in history.you want to fight BRING IT ON as Unionists we will defend our country All its People aslan.Not just a rump of a few hundred English Nationalists. whos policy is dis honest and more about seperation and stoking up resentment rather than a people of unity.I am not going away either make no mistake about that aslan and neither are thousands of others every time you look we will be there.exposing your real agenda and are very confident in bringing about your down fall.Uncles is doing a good job of it anyway and your rant just about sums it up you the English Democrats Party are FINISHED even before you got started.People dont have to do anything your antics turn people of so aslan BRING IT ON WE ARE WAITING

Yep - the postings of the current incarnation known as 'Danny', who lead us to believe his only attack on the EDP was during the London election campaign, and that he now respects them - especially their policy of an English Parliament.

A enemy of England in all forms.

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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:15 am

Yep - the postings of the current incarnation known as 'Danny', who lead us to believe his only attack on the EDP was during the London election campaign, and that he now respects them - especially their policy of an English Parliament.

A enemy of England in all forms.

Does this 'Staffsman' live in Kingfisher Close? This cannot be so, surely! Why would someone living in England - as Mr Barnish does - post such nasty things about English nationalist parties?

Should I ask the forum to contact his local police station to see if whoever lives at the address is perfectly alright?
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There's only one thing I don't understand. People believe him to be a Mr Paul Barnish of Staffordshire, but I'm not so sure.

I've researched Mr Barnish, and this fellow has been a branch secretary for both UKIP and Veritas. It's hard to imagine Danny being capable of that. And also, the blogs of Mr Barnish show a standard of English higher than Danny exhibits (not that that takes much).

So come on Danny, you know our names - if you're not Barnish, who are you?

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I too, think that someone who can write a coherent blog and be a branch secretary for a party like UKIP couldn't be the seemingly mentally disordered individual posting as "Danny". Unless something terrible happened to Paul Barnish in the interim. I don't know him at all, but I agree with Northumbrian that a connection looks iffy. If Danny is suffering from a disorder (which, if he is a real person, I would strongly suggest he is) allowing him to make a fool of himself is abusive. If he is a troll alter ego of someone else he should get the hoof.

Posted in the English Democrats section.Thinking nobody would notice

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Last edited by Danny; Yesterday at 11:28 PM. Reason: correction

BonnieDundee · 14-09-2008, 06:10 AM

Haven't you posted this elsewhere?

You're getting nearly as bad as Cassie.

Richard the Lionheart · 14-09-2008, 09:25 AM

Quite simple really Danny, just put the FEP on ignore and don't post in their section. You would be much better off staying well clear of the section if it upsets you so much.

the englishman · 14-09-2008, 10:47 AM

Albeit, it's clear to me from having spent time with some of the FEP members hat the party is growing - I've even managed to get a couple of people curious myself - and is on the up.

Jeff · 14-09-2008, 11:09 AM

Danny is on a mission to destroy the FEP threads on here,if that means he has damaged the running of the BDF as well as several of its amiable posters,then so what,he is an obvious troll who is plainly against the English Parties who post here.

cassie · 14-09-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

Haven't you posted this elsewhere?

You're getting nearly as bad as Cassie.

Yet another gratuitously disparaging and unnecessary reference to me!

The problem is that you dish out what you can't take. Time for you to have another whine to the Moderators.

You emigres are all the same!

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the englishman · 14-09-2008, 11:17 AM

Jeff, my suggestion is to turn every thread into a positive. Make any trolling counterproductive for the troll and don't address the troll directly. JMHO.

SilverFalcon · 14-09-2008, 11:50 AM

This works only up to a point. Trolls deliberately target posters and undo the entire sequence and flow by continuous general negative posting. This is actually considered to be against the software provider's licence agreements, outside of the forum rules made by the forum owners. The software providers rely on people to prevent trolls from upsetting the community, from insulting, bullying and harassing people and say so in their disclaimers.

The obvious solution to uncontrollable trolling is banning, but sometimes the trolls remain behind and the posters targeted by their continuous abuse are banned instead. It's a strange world, but then when wasn't it one?

Danny · 14-09-2008, 12:36 PM

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Northumbrian posted

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British Democracy Forum dilemma
We have a section on the British Democracy Forum for our party, but as some as you know a certain poster has done nothing but try and ridicule us, not forgetting the smear campaign he started in May. I reported him to the Mods but this had no effect.

I then started my own action, asking him to continue his campaign or be accused as a liar, but this thread was deleted, and then the Mods clamped down on everyone. I feel that this poster was planted by the forum to discredit English nationalists. After all, it is a 'British' democracy forum.

I'm not sure if I will participate much in debate there in future. It just doesn't seem worth the hassle

Northumbrian · 14-09-2008, 12:53 PM

It is the end of the road for myself and Danny. For so long I wondered what stance I should adopt against this enemy of English nationalism.

I decided a while ago not to engage in normal debate with him, though I do like debating generally, even with my opponents. We've had people visiting the Free England Party website who are not supporters, and I answer their questions. However, I do not debate with people who want to destroy the party. Simple as that.

Then recently Danny tried to crank up the pressure on us, by looking for any snippets of information on us, taking it out of context, with the aim to try and discredit us. I felt I had to respond to these accusations. However, that was a waste of time because it's like talking to your own echo. He never reads your replies nor answers your questions.

However, I did some reserach on this character when he posted under the name of Staffsman on another forum. He used exactly the same method of harasssment against the EDP as what he does to the Free England Party now. Yet this was over 2 years. The fact that he couldn't make the slightest difference to the EDP over a 2 year period proves he isn't a threat. He possesses neither the means nor the resources to damage us. I have no interest in non-entities.

A final reason why I still debated with him for so long (and it's a weakness of mine), was that I quite enjoyed crushing and humiliating an inferior opponent in debate. But - I must desist from that temptation.

So Danny, as far as I'm concerned - you no longer exist - goodbye.

14-09-2008, 02:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
Danny Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 776	FEP Mob Bullying offical complaint also posted in the complaints section FEP MOB bullying OFFICAL Complaint by Danny Also posted in the complaints section for attention of the MODERATORS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- C_steam has already Issued a warning in this section which can be reffered to Dear Moderators C_steam Alex Mckee and Brendan I am making an Offical Complaint against the FEP Mob who have posted the following in the English Democrats section.In yet another attempt at trying to get at me to bully me and force me of the forum the FEP mob have posted it in the English Democrats section thinking you the moderators wouldnt notice and its clearly being posted there to cause maximum trouble.C_steam has warned anymore of this kind of personal stuff and action would be taken Alex also warned action would be taken so did Brendan if anymore personal attacks etc were posted.C_steam even issued a warning in the FEP section and the FEP mob clearly dont care there is Evidence that I will post of a threat of harrasment by the FEP mob against three of us who post in the FEP section surely this cannot go on something has got to be done with the FEP mob. Offical Complaint.Moderators please see below Posted in the English Democrats section thread title sounds familier Today, 02:51 PM #1 (permalink) Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 1,096 Sounds familiar? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:15 am Quote: Originally Posted by staffsman Aslan That was the biggest rant in history.you want to fight BRING IT ON as Unionists we will defend our country All its People aslan.Not just a rump of a few hundred English Nationalists. whos policy is dis honest and more about seperation and stoking up resentment rather than a people of unity.I am not going away either make no mistake about that aslan and neither are thousands of others every time you look we will be there.exposing your real agenda and are very confident in bringing about your down fall.Uncles is doing a good job of it anyway and your rant just about sums it up you the English Democrats Party are FINISHED even before you got started.People dont have to do anything your antics turn people of so aslan BRING IT ON WE ARE WAITING Yep - the postings of the current incarnation known as 'Danny', who lead us to believe his only attack on the EDP was during the London election campaign, and that he now respects them - especially their policy of an English Parliament. A enemy of England in all forms. Northumbrian View Public Profile Send a private message to Northumbrian Find More Posts by Northumbrian Add Northumbrian to Your Contacts Today, 04:48 PM #2 (permalink) Andrew Constantine Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 887 Party: Free England Party Staffsman lives in England? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Northumbrian Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:15 am Yep - the postings of the current incarnation known as 'Danny', who lead us to believe his only attack on the EDP was during the London election campaign, and that he now respects them - especially their policy of an English Parliament. A enemy of England in all forms. Does this 'Staffsman' live in Kingfisher Close? This cannot be so, surely! Why would someone living in England - as Mr Barnish does - post such nasty things about English nationalist parties? Should I ask the forum to contact his local police station to see if whoever lives at the address is perfectly alright? __________________ Andrew Constantine Free England Party - Independence for England Free England Party - Home Free England Signatory to The English Claim of Right English Claim of Right - Home Andrew Constantine View Public Profile Send a private message to Andrew Constantine Find More Posts by Andrew Constantine Add Andrew Constantine to Your Contacts Today, 05:24 PM #3 (permalink) Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 1,096 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There's only one thing I don't understand. People believe him to be a Mr Paul Barnish of Staffordshire, but I'm not so sure. I've researched Mr Barnish, and this fellow has been a branch secretary for both UKIP and Veritas. It's hard to imagine Danny being capable of that. And also, the blogs of Mr Barnish show a standard of English higher than Danny exhibits (not that that takes much). So come on Danny, you know our names - if you're not Barnish, who are you? Northumbrian View Public Profile Send a private message to Northumbrian Find More Posts by Northumbrian Add Northumbrian to Your Contacts Today, 05:42 PM #4 (permalink) SilverFalcon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: A garden filled with killer bees Posts: 778 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I too, think that someone who can write a coherent blog and be a branch secretary for a party like UKIP couldn't be the seemingly mentally disordered individual posting as "Danny". Unless something terrible happened to Paul Barnish in the interim. I don't know him at all, but I agree with Northumbrian that a connection looks iffy. If Danny is suffering from a disorder (which, if he is a real person, I would strongly suggest he is) allowing him to make a fool of himself is abusive. If he is a troll alter ego of someone else he should get the hoof. Posted in the English Democrats section.Thinking nobody would notice -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by Danny; Yesterday at 11:28 PM. Reason: correction

14-09-2008, 06:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
BonnieDundee Uber Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Between Mallaig and Cornwall. Posts: 2,809	Haven't you posted this elsewhere? You're getting nearly as bad as Cassie. __________________ "It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state." -Bruce Schneier How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and pss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.* Edward Abbey Leopold Kohr.

14-09-2008, 09:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Richard the Lionheart Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 607 Party: Free England Party	Quite simple really Danny, just put the FEP on ignore and don't post in their section. You would be much better off staying well clear of the section if it upsets you so much. __________________ The Free England Party - England's Premier Nationalist Party www.freeengland.com .....Serious about England

14-09-2008, 10:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
the englishman Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 72	Albeit, it's clear to me from having spent time with some of the FEP members hat the party is growing - I've even managed to get a couple of people curious myself - and is on the up. __________________ http://modernnationalist.blogspot.com/

14-09-2008, 11:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
the englishman Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 72	Jeff, my suggestion is to turn every thread into a positive. Make any trolling counterproductive for the troll and don't address the troll directly. JMHO. __________________ http://modernnationalist.blogspot.com/

14-09-2008, 11:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jeff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 371 Party: Free England Party	Danny is on a mission to destroy the FEP threads on here,if that means he has damaged the running of the BDF as well as several of its amiable posters,then so what,he is an obvious troll who is plainly against the English Parties who post here.

14-09-2008, 11:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
SilverFalcon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,019	This works only up to a point. Trolls deliberately target posters and undo the entire sequence and flow by continuous general negative posting. This is actually considered to be against the software provider's licence agreements, outside of the forum rules made by the forum owners. The software providers rely on people to prevent trolls from upsetting the community, from insulting, bullying and harassing people and say so in their disclaimers. The obvious solution to uncontrollable trolling is banning, but sometimes the trolls remain behind and the posters targeted by their continuous abuse are banned instead. It's a strange world, but then when wasn't it one?

14-09-2008, 12:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Danny Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 776	-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Northumbrian posted Posts: 121 British Democracy Forum dilemma We have a section on the British Democracy Forum for our party, but as some as you know a certain poster has done nothing but try and ridicule us, not forgetting the smear campaign he started in May. I reported him to the Mods but this had no effect. I then started my own action, asking him to continue his campaign or be accused as a liar, but this thread was deleted, and then the Mods clamped down on everyone. I feel that this poster was planted by the forum to discredit English nationalists. After all, it is a 'British' democracy forum. I'm not sure if I will participate much in debate there in future. It just doesn't seem worth the hassle

14-09-2008, 12:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 1,413 Party: Free England Party	It is the end of the road for myself and Danny. For so long I wondered what stance I should adopt against this enemy of English nationalism. I decided a while ago not to engage in normal debate with him, though I do like debating generally, even with my opponents. We've had people visiting the Free England Party website who are not supporters, and I answer their questions. However, I do not debate with people who want to destroy the party. Simple as that. Then recently Danny tried to crank up the pressure on us, by looking for any snippets of information on us, taking it out of context, with the aim to try and discredit us. I felt I had to respond to these accusations. However, that was a waste of time because it's like talking to your own echo. He never reads your replies nor answers your questions. However, I did some reserach on this character when he posted under the name of Staffsman on another forum. He used exactly the same method of harasssment against the EDP as what he does to the Free England Party now. Yet this was over 2 years. The fact that he couldn't make the slightest difference to the EDP over a 2 year period proves he isn't a threat. He possesses neither the means nor the resources to damage us. I have no interest in non-entities. A final reason why I still debated with him for so long (and it's a weakness of mine), was that I quite enjoyed crushing and humiliating an inferior opponent in debate. But - I must desist from that temptation. So Danny, as far as I'm concerned - you no longer exist - goodbye.

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