News: English Democrats Press Release

Englander 1 · 10-09-2008, 09:32 PM

English Democrats Press Release - WE TOLD YOU SO .....!

Today, the Taxpayers’ Alliance has issued their long-awaited report on the real cost to England of the Barnett Formula.

The conclusion of their findings are that English taxpayers are massively subsidising the people of Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland and their public services. The English Democrats are the only political party calling for the immediate end of this unfair, outdated and discriminatory English tax - the Barnett Formula.

In the last 20 years, English Taxpayers have sent in excess of £200 billion to other parts of the UK - and while those countries have enjoyed such benefits as the abolition of prescription charges, the abolition of university top-up-fees and free residential care for their elderly, the people of England are left paying for all this largesse without getting any of the benefits.

It makes Allistair Darling's lecturing words of prudence, living within our means and financial responsibility seem just a bit hollow at yesterday's TUC conference - especially when his own constituents in Scotland have much better funded public services than their English counterparts.

Robin Tilbrook, Chairman of The English Democrats, said: "The report also makes a mockery of Brown, Cameron and Clegg's supposed 'United' Kingdom vision of equally shared spoils. The reality is one of vicious discrimination, exclusion and fiscal exploitation of the people of England .

England contributes over 85% of all the UK Government fiscal pot - and yet we get least back in regards to spending per head. Figures released by the Taxpayers Alliance report reveal that spending per head in Scotland is between 22% and 25% higher than that in England , in Wales it is 14% higher and in Northern Ireland it is a incredible 30% higher. Is this the price we English Taxpayers have to pay to continue to be a part of the United Kingdom ?"

Robin Tilbrook, Chairman of The English Democrats, also said: "The English Democrats are demanding the immediate abolition of this discriminatory formula and demanding devolution for England, with an English Parliament, English First Minister and English Government with at least the same powers as the Scottish ones. We also demand abolition of the Government’s expensive and undemocratic Regional Assemblies. The People of England should be democratically able to hold our politicians to account - and at last spend our own money on our own citizens!

Robin Tilbrook

Chairman

Andrew Constantine · 10-09-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Englander 1

The English Democrats are the only political party calling for the immediate end of this unfair, outdated and discriminatory English tax - the Barnett Formula.

The Free England Party is of course seeking the full monty of fiscal autonomy, aka our nation's independence!

Or am I missing the point...

cassie · 11-09-2008, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine

The Free England Party is of course seeking the full monty of fiscal autonomy, aka our nation's independence!

Or am I missing the point...

Yes, you seem to be . . . unless you imagine that "seeking the full monty of fiscal autonomy" with all the negotiated disentanglements that would entail can be achieved much quicker than "the immediate abolition of this discriminatory [Barnett] formula "!

Does this clarify matters?

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Andrew Constantine · 11-09-2008, 09:27 AM

Cassie

Fair and reasoned.

Regards

Andrew

cassie · 11-09-2008, 11:22 AM

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Thanks for conceding the point Andrew, which does not invalidate the FEP's central position, of course!

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Danny · 11-09-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Englander 1

English Democrats Press Release - WE TOLD YOU SO .....!

Today, the Taxpayers’ Alliance has issued their long-awaited report on the real cost to England of the Barnett Formula.

The conclusion of their findings are that English taxpayers are massively subsidising the people of Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland and their public services. The English Democrats are the only political party calling for the immediate end of this unfair, outdated and discriminatory English tax - the Barnett Formula.

In the last 20 years, English Taxpayers have sent in excess of £200 billion to other parts of the UK - and while those countries have enjoyed such benefits as the abolition of prescription charges, the abolition of university top-up-fees and free residential care for their elderly, the people of England are left paying for all this largesse without getting any of the benefits.

It makes Allistair Darling's lecturing words of prudence, living within our means and financial responsibility seem just a bit hollow at yesterday's TUC conference - especially when his own constituents in Scotland have much better funded public services than their English counterparts.

Robin Tilbrook, Chairman of The English Democrats, said: "The report also makes a mockery of Brown, Cameron and Clegg's supposed 'United' Kingdom vision of equally shared spoils. The reality is one of vicious discrimination, exclusion and fiscal exploitation of the people of England .

England contributes over 85% of all the UK Government fiscal pot - and yet we get least back in regards to spending per head. Figures released by the Taxpayers Alliance report reveal that spending per head in Scotland is between 22% and 25% higher than that in England , in Wales it is 14% higher and in Northern Ireland it is a incredible 30% higher. Is this the price we English Taxpayers have to pay to continue to be a part of the United Kingdom ?"

Robin Tilbrook, Chairman of The English Democrats, also said: "The English Democrats are demanding the immediate abolition of this discriminatory formula and demanding devolution for England, with an English Parliament, English First Minister and English Government with at least the same powers as the Scottish ones. We also demand abolition of the Government’s expensive and undemocratic Regional Assemblies. The People of England should be democratically able to hold our politicians to account - and at last spend our own money on our own citizens!

Robin Tilbrook

Chairman

Thanks Englander 1 for posting it its an
Excellent press release it hits all the right buttons

.And clearly would have the vast majority of support by the good people of England.Well done Mr Tilbrook.

Northumbrian · 13-09-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Thanks Englander 1 for posting it its an
Excellent press release it hits all the right buttons

.And clearly would have the vast majority of support by the good people of England.Well done Mr Tilbrook.

Written with the same sincerity as a cat would show to a mouse....

10-09-2008, 09:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Englander 1 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WARWICKSHIRE Posts: 393 Party: English Democrats	English Democrats Press Release - WE TOLD YOU SO .....! English Democrats Press Release - WE TOLD YOU SO .....! Today, the Taxpayers’ Alliance has issued their long-awaited report on the real cost to England of the Barnett Formula. The conclusion of their findings are that English taxpayers are massively subsidising the people of Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland and their public services. The English Democrats are the only political party calling for the immediate end of this unfair, outdated and discriminatory English tax - the Barnett Formula. In the last 20 years, English Taxpayers have sent in excess of £200 billion to other parts of the UK - and while those countries have enjoyed such benefits as the abolition of prescription charges, the abolition of university top-up-fees and free residential care for their elderly, the people of England are left paying for all this largesse without getting any of the benefits. It makes Allistair Darling's lecturing words of prudence, living within our means and financial responsibility seem just a bit hollow at yesterday's TUC conference - especially when his own constituents in Scotland have much better funded public services than their English counterparts. Robin Tilbrook, Chairman of The English Democrats, said: "The report also makes a mockery of Brown, Cameron and Clegg's supposed 'United' Kingdom vision of equally shared spoils. The reality is one of vicious discrimination, exclusion and fiscal exploitation of the people of England . England contributes over 85% of all the UK Government fiscal pot - and yet we get least back in regards to spending per head. Figures released by the Taxpayers Alliance report reveal that spending per head in Scotland is between 22% and 25% higher than that in England , in Wales it is 14% higher and in Northern Ireland it is a incredible 30% higher. Is this the price we English Taxpayers have to pay to continue to be a part of the United Kingdom ?" Robin Tilbrook, Chairman of The English Democrats, also said: "The English Democrats are demanding the immediate abolition of this discriminatory formula and demanding devolution for England, with an English Parliament, English First Minister and English Government with at least the same powers as the Scottish ones. We also demand abolition of the Government’s expensive and undemocratic Regional Assemblies. The People of England should be democratically able to hold our politicians to account - and at last spend our own money on our own citizens! Robin Tilbrook Chairman __________________ "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." - Sir Winston Churchill

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11-09-2008, 11:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
cassie Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,906	___________________ Thanks for conceding the point Andrew, which does not invalidate the FEP's central position, of course! -----------------------