Adrian Davies

An unfortunate aspect of this bye-election is that our hateful and hated ruling party retained the seat despite (or should that be because of?) good votes for the Tories, BNP and UKIP. That is sad.

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Adrian Davies

Hunter

What is sad here, and seems to be missed by most, is that the message that NuLabour has ruined this country is not getting to those that count - namely the electorate. We can spend years (and a fortune) arguing among ourselves about the niceties of our own Party, which will only allow NuLibour to take advantage of the situation.

We (all the 'fringe' Parties) should be trying to convince the voter to turn away from Labour. That it isn't the same Party they, and their parents and grandparents, voted for over the last few decades. It is a totally different Party run by, and for, Communists, the same people their grandparents were taught were the enemy of democracy.

There is enough evidence out there to prove the point. Let's all use it and we can argue the toss after NuLibour have been beaten, not who took votes off whom.

Shaun

Freedom from the EU

Well said, Labour must be removed from power before its too late.

Adrian Davies

Is that so, Hunter? The overwhelming majority of the votes cast in this ward were for the parties of the right. The trouble is that, with the patriotic and right wing vote split between the Tories, UKIP and the BNP, Labour just scraped home (which was the point that I was trying to make).

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Adrian Davies

Dissident Congress

What is really sad, judging by election results this year, is that voters are migrating in droves to the Tories and bypassing nationalist and patriotic parties. Camoron is probably set to become the next PM - not because of his party's policies or because he is "lovable" like Blair was - but simply because he is in the right place at the right time.

The tactics nationalists need to deploy to capture the loyal Labour vote in the South Yorkshire coalfields is completely different to that required to capture the floating Labour vote in the marginals.

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Hunter

Understood. The point I was making Adrian is that there are still a large number of people out there who are voting for NuLabour (as opposed to THE Labour Party) on the grounds that 'they always have'. One person I spoke to during the May elections stated that his grandfather had voted for them, his father had voted for them and he felt duty bound to carry on in their footsteps.

kernow

I've come across many people who have that mind set! No matter what c**p policies their party come up with they still vote for them! The two party system is so ingrained in Joe and Jane public minds that even if they agree with smaller party's policies they'll still vote for their old party. I know what I'm talking about, I was a naive Tory voter for 40years!

Shaun

Indeed and even if they don't vote for the old parties,they don't vote at all-which just ensures the status quo.

What does it matter to the old-gang what turn out is,if their supporters always turn out?