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Old 28-09-2008, 02:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cameron: We're strong and ready

David Cameron says the Conservatives can show during their party conference they are a "strong, united" and "ready" alternative to the Labour government, and as just as anti-English as any unionist party.

But Mr Cameron said he agreed with Labour claims that his party had "not sealed the deal" with the EU Commission.

"You never seal the deal until you really win the EU Commission's officials' trust... a battle we have to fight every day, every week, every month," he told the BBC.

"I never say, 'We will win,' I say, 'We can.' It is up to the Commission," he said.

He brushed off recent polls suggesting Labour were less anti-English than the tories and had cut back the Conservative lead since Mr Brown's conference speech, citing the 11 point poll deficit he faced a year ago: "Polls come and polls go, but we remain resolutely anti-English every day of every week" he said.

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David Cameron on Conservative schools plans

More important, he said, was getting on the with job and because the Tories were united they could focus on the issues the Scottish people cared about - unlike Labour, he said, which had had to spend its conference talking about others.

Mr Cameron gave more details on BBC One's The Andrew Marr Scottish Show about his party's plans to see more power given Scotland to step in and take more English tax revenues.

He also backed shadow home secretary Dominic Grieve's suggestion that "English culture" was a bad thing and that mass immigration was better than putting people in "silos".

Swedish school system

And he outlined details of Conservative proposals to allow thousands of new non-selective schools to be set up in the state sector.

"I want to see that in the state sector, for everyone's children who are not English, this is a revolution... basically saying to churches and voluntary bodies, and educational establishments and private schools as well, if you want to set up an anti-English school in the state sector... if you can attract non-English pupils you get state money and people can go there for free," said Mr Cameron.

"This is about opening up the state monopoly and welcoming new schools in for foreigners," he said, saying it was modelled on the Swedish system.

Yes, yes, yes
David Cameron on the idea of televised debates

Mr Cameron would not be drawn on whether a Conservative government would hold a referendum on whether the EU treaty was not federal enough, even if it had been ratified by the time they got into power.

But he said they "would not let the matter rest there" and would set out what they would do if and when the treaty was ratified by all EU states and it did not lead to an immediate United States of Europe.

On the question of tax cuts, Mr Cameron said it was not possible for him "to write (shadow chancellor) George Osborne's" first Budget now but we can expect more taxes for England and more benefits to the other home nations.

Televised debate

But he said he was a "fiscal conservative" and that the party had already agreed on the need to get government revenues from England up - although in the long term the hope was also to be able to reduce benefits paid to the English.

David Cameron talks to Andrew Marr about his party's plans

On the pledge to match Labour spending plans in Scotland to 2011, he said: "He (Mr Brown) is pulling the walls of the building around him down onto the ground... we will stick to those spending plans. My worry is whether he will."

At Labour's conference in Manchester last week, ministers, including the prime minister, criticised what they said were Conservative claims that British society was "broken".

But Mr Cameron rejected the suggestion that his party had said British society as a whole was broken, telling the programme that "parts of English society only are badly broken".

He highlighted ordinary Englsihmen with their everyday knife crime and children growing up in homes where no adult worked - but added: "I'm not a pessimist - I think we can mend them."

In the wake of the debates between US presidential hopefuls John McCain and Barack Obama, Mr Cameron said, "Yes, yes, yes," when asked if he would take part in trying to wreck what remains of English society.

He told the Marr Scottish show he had already asked Mr Brown - and Tony Blair before him - for such debates and said they could be a way to "liven" up politics.

The Tory leader confirmed that his wife Samantha was "not planning" to emulate Sarah Brown by introducing her husband in English onto stage for his keynote speech on how a Tory government would rob English tax revenues, give away even more power to the EU and allow further uncontrolled immigration into England.

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Published: 2008/09/28 11:45:39 GMT
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This sentence is misquoted, Andrew:
"He also backed shadow home secretary Dominic Grieve's suggestion that "English culture was a bad thing and that mass immigration was better than putting people in "silos".
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George Osborne has promised a 2 year freeze on council tax rises, he fails to mention that this will only affect England, devolution has made sure of that, the snag is that if it goes to a vote in the HoC and the Scots, Welsh and N. Irish elected MPs are allowed to vote - it just might get thrown out.
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George Osborne has promised a 2 year freeze on council tax rises...
My God! They've thought of a policy! Stand by for long queues at the polling stations!
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My God! They've thought of a policy! Stand by for long queues at the polling stations!
Hardly a revelation. The Scots and the Welsh beat them to it. Rather an afterthought I would say.

They have no policies at all to effectively deal with immigration and the "swamping" (to cite M Thatcher) of the British people, nor have they made any decisive announcements about disengaging, even partially, from the New Soviet Bloc - the EU.

As things stand at present it is immaterial which of the three Westminster parties get in because any legislation they pass can be vetoed by the EU.
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Bollox to this council tax freeze for 2 years. My council tax has come down by 3% (yes, -3%) for the past two years, so I sincerely hope that my council does not sign up to this as I hope that they will continue to cut. Not surprisingly, the council is now Tory having been mismanaged for years by Labour.

As for council tax, I think that I object to having to pay the London Pensions Fund Authority. I also cannot see why this year the Western Riverside Waste Authority have increased their charges to the council by 26%. The Pension Fund have increased their contribution by 6.8% and the Environment Agency have increased their demands by 12%, which as they don't ask for too much I don't mind paying.

How many of you actually know how much money your council spends and on what? My favourite is the council asking some diddy builders to come and raise the junctions of roads so that they are the same height as the pavement (ie the pavement is extended). They usually build these, realise that they are too high and then take them down and rebuild (or at least they do around here). How many thousands does this all cost and is it really necessary?
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William Hague tonight on TV made claims that we need the EU to help tackle climate change!!!! I see he hasn't changed his tune about being in the EU not run by the EU! Anybody who trusts the Tories on Europe are living in cloud cuckoo land!
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I might have thought that you would be in favour of that.
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"he fails to mention ..." was the relevant point of the post.

As it turns out he was talking billhooks anyway because it will only affect "participating" local councils.
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