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Gregory Lauder-Frost 1335 08-15-2008 09:26 AM GMT Edited by author 08-15-2008 11:48 AM
A dossier has already been prepared. You will hear more later. I am getting just a bit fed up with being smeared. Time to take action against a few people.
Richard Taylor 1334 08-15-2008 07:50 AM GMT Mr Lauder-Frost. If you have emails that prove Harvey is a liar I challenge you to publish them here.

Personally I have always thought him a highly disgusting specimen - totally unfit to represent The Right.
The Independent 1333 08-15-2008 05:18 AM GMT David Davis, the Tory Party chairman, is among a number of senior Tories who have addressed a hard-right group with links to the British National Party, despite the Tories' efforts to distance themselves from right- wing groups.

Mr Davis spoke to the Swinton Circle, set up by devotees of Enoch Powell who backed his views on immigration, in February 2001, four months before the general election. He has defended his decision to speak at the meeting, held in the House of Commons, despite deciding to sever links between the Conservative Party and the right-wing Monday Club last week.

According to sources at Searchlight, the anti-Fascist magazine, the Swinton Circle is "on a par with the Monday Club when it comes to anti-immigrant and anti-refugee sentiments".

The Swinton Circle describes itself as a "House of Commons-based cultural Conservative pressure group for the maintenance of traditional Conservative and Unionist principles". It says its members are "campaigning to dismantle the BBC" and reverse the "lurch to the left" in the modern Conservative Party, and calls the British National Party a "breakaway party" from the Conservatives.

On immigration and asylum, a recent newsletter said: "Blair's widely advertised `Bribes for Votes' policies have caused an asylum invasion." Another, dated May 2001, calls the decision by the Conservative Party to sign up to the Commission for Racial Equality's pledge against racism during the election campaign as "sheer folly".

In an associated publication - Tough Talking From the Right - the Swinton Circle backed Iain Duncan Smith as Tory leader because "he is pro-capital punishment and he demonstrated his opposition to libertinism by voting against the age of homosexual consent being reduced from 21 and he has also opposed legalising cannabis."

Mr Davis spoke to the Swinton Circle on 6 February. Other Tories believed to have addressed the group include frontbench spokesman Bill Cash.

On Thursday, Mr Davis suspended the hard-right Monday Club from the Conservative Party, warning it would only be readmitted if it stopped campaigning on immigration.

The move was part of a drive led by Iain Duncan Smith to bring the Conservative Party back into mainstream politics and lessen its right- wing image.

A Tory spokesman said: "Our judgement is that we don't regard the Swinton Circle as being in the same category as the Monday Club. As part of the review of groups associated with the Conservative Party - and the association with the party is pretty loose - we have looked into other groups besides the Monday Club and we don't think there is a problem with the Swinton Circle."
Harvey's underpants 1332 08-15-2008 05:07 AM GMT Edited by author 08-15-2008 05:09 AM
Alan Harvey is a grubby bloop.

One giant fart from Harvey would achieve the Left's dream. The instant massacre of the entire Swinton Circle - all six of them.

Alan Harvey is a Searchlight mole.
Gregory Lauder-Frost 1331 08-14-2008 11:56 AM GMT Edited by author 08-14-2008 11:59 AM
Entirely true, I'm afraid. It is rich for Alan Harvey, a known ex-NF member, to be pointing the finger at others. He does himself a disservice parrotting "The Guardian"'s fantasies about me (about which I complained to the PCC). Alan Harvey was very friendly towards me until about 2002 when he and I fell out when I refused to support the war against Iraq, and said it was ridiculous to start a holy war against the entire Islamic population of the world, which runs into billions. Ask them to leave Britain, certainly. His emails thereafter became exceptionally offensive.

I resent his snide remarks here and elsewhere.
Mark 1330 08-14-2008 09:33 AM GMT Edited by author 08-14-2008 09:34 AM
If the Swinton Circle is in self-destruct it will be entirely due you, Alan Harvey.

"The scene" caused at the last meeting was 100% your doing and yours alone. It is a blatant lie to state that Allan Robertson asked anyone to leave the meeting. I saw him waving and smiling to GLF downstairs! GLF has attended numerous meetings in the past as has Sam Swerling, both either members or lapsed members of the Swinton Circle.

Gregory Lauder-Frost came to the meeting perfectly dressed in a smart suit and tie and Sam Swerling also turned up looking smart with jacket and tie, as did Denis Delderfield sitting behind them. Others were also well turned out. But not you Alan. You looked like a bloated tramp who hadn't washed in weeks, in clothes that even Oxfam would reject.

Yes, if your last post is true, you, Alan Harvey, will have succeeded in wrecking the Swinton Circle. You are the biggest embarrassment they ever had, you ex-National Front member.
Alan Harvey 1329 08-14-2008 08:36 AM GMT I've just heard from my contact that Allan Robertson has just resigned from the Lodon Swinton Circle as a result of criticisms of him for allowing neo-fascists such as Swerling and Anderson to attend LSC meetings. Evidently word of this has reached Conservative Party HQ and all Tory MPs have been instructed to have no further dealings with the organisation accordingly.
Alan Harvey 1328 08-14-2008 08:33 AM GMT Edited by author 08-14-2008 08:36 AM
Re Swinton Circle News according to my contact the person "wearing a smart pin-stripped suit" was none other than Lauder-Frost himself. Actually Lauder-Frost turned up looking like a clown - wearing a garish yellow tie and a suit which looked as if it came out of the 1920s! The Swinton Circle tend to be a very laid-back crowd and mainly dispense with neck-ties a la Cameron, and prior to the scene caused by Swerling and Lauder-Frost after they were asked to leave by Harvey and Robertson, Lauder-Frost's bizarre dress-sense was the cause of much amusement.

Incidentally, the fact that Lauder-Frost was evidently "cordially greeted" by ex-NF Chairman Ian Anderson seems VERY significant.

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Mike - for clarity could you edit the above to clarify who is being quoted, from what source and which coments (if any) are yours.

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I have put these in the right order.

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Alan Harvey Re Swinton Circle News according to my contact the person "wearing a smart pin-stripped suit" was none other than Lauder-Frost himself. Actually Lauder-Frost turned up looking like a clown - wearing a garish yellow tie and a suit which looked as if it came out of the 1920s! The Swinton Circle tend to be a very laid-back crowd and mainly dispense with neck-ties a la Cameron, and prior to the scene caused by Swerling and Lauder-Frost after they were asked to leave by Harvey and Robertson, Lauder-Frost's bizarre dress-sense was the cause of much amusement. Incidentally, the fact that Lauder-Frost was evidently "cordially greeted" by ex-NF Chairman Ian Anderson seems VERY significant

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Alan Harvey I've just heard from my contact that Allan Robertson has just resigned from the Lodon Swinton Circle as a result of criticisms of him for allowing neo-fascists such as Swerling and Anderson to attend LSC meetings. Evidently word of this has reached Conservative Party HQ and all Tory MPs have been instructed to have no further dealings with the organisation accordingly.

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Mark If the Swinton Circle is in self-destruct it will be entirely due you, Alan Harvey. "The scene" caused at the last meeting was 100% your doing and yours alone. It is a blatant lie to state that Allan Robertson asked anyone to leave the meeting. I saw him waving and smiling to GLF downstairs! GLF has attended numerous meetings in the past as has Sam Swerling, both either members or lapsed members of the Swinton Circle. Gregory Lauder-Frost came to the meeting perfectly dressed in a smart suit and tie and Sam Swerling also turned up looking smart with jacket and tie, as did Denis Delderfield sitting behind them. Others were also well turned out. But not you Alan. You looked like a bloated tramp who hadn't washed in weeks, in clothes that even Oxfam would reject. Yes, if your last post is true, you, Alan Harvey, will have succeeded in wrecking the Swinton Circle. You are the biggest embarrassment they ever had, you ex-National Front member.

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Gregory Lauder-Frost Entirely true, I'm afraid. It is rich for Alan Harvey, a known ex-NF member, to be pointing the finger at others. He does himself a disservice parrotting "The Guardian"'s fantasies about me (about which I complained to the PCC). Alan Harvey was very friendly towards me until about 2002 when he and I fell out when I refused to support the war against Iraq, and said it was ridiculous to start a holy war against the entire Islamic population of the world, which runs into billions. Ask them to leave Britain, certainly. His emails thereafter became exceptionally offensive. I resent his snide remarks here and elsewhere.

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Alan Harvey's Underpants Alan Harvey is a grubby bloop. One giant fart from Harvey would achieve the Left's dream. The instant massacre of the entire Swinton Circle - all six of them. Alan Harvey is a Searchlight mole.

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The Independent David Davis, the Tory Party chairman, is among a number of senior Tories who have addressed a hard-right group with links to the British National Party, despite the Tories' efforts to distance themselves from right- wing groups. Mr Davis spoke to the Swinton Circle, set up by devotees of Enoch Powell who backed his views on immigration, in February 2001, four months before the general election. He has defended his decision to speak at the meeting, held in the House of Commons, despite deciding to sever links between the Conservative Party and the right-wing Monday Club last week. According to sources at Searchlight, the anti-Fascist magazine, the Swinton Circle is "on a par with the Monday Club when it comes to anti-immigrant and anti-refugee sentiments". The Swinton Circle describes itself as a "House of Commons-based cultural Conservative pressure group for the maintenance of traditional Conservative and Unionist principles". It says its members are "campaigning to dismantle the BBC" and reverse the "lurch to the left" in the modern Conservative Party, and calls the British National Party a "breakaway party" from the Conservatives. On immigration and asylum, a recent newsletter said: "Blair's widely advertised `Bribes for Votes' policies have caused an asylum invasion." Another, dated May 2001, calls the decision by the Conservative Party to sign up to the Commission for Racial Equality's pledge against racism during the election campaign as "sheer folly". In an associated publication - Tough Talking From the Right - the Swinton Circle backed Iain Duncan Smith as Tory leader because "he is pro-capital punishment and he demonstrated his opposition to libertinism by voting against the age of homosexual consent being reduced from 21 and he has also opposed legalising cannabis." Mr Davis spoke to the Swinton Circle on 6 February. Other Tories believed to have addressed the group include frontbench spokesman Bill Cash. On Thursday, Mr Davis suspended the hard-right Monday Club from the Conservative Party, warning it would only be readmitted if it stopped campaigning on immigration. The move was part of a drive led by Iain Duncan Smith to bring the Conservative Party back into mainstream politics and lessen its right- wing image. A Tory spokesman said: "Our judgement is that we don't regard the Swinton Circle as being in the same category as the Monday Club. As part of the review of groups associated with the Conservative Party - and the association with the party is pretty loose - we have looked into other groups besides the Monday Club and we don't think there is a problem with the Swinton Circle."

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Richard Taylor Mr Lauder-Frost. If you have emails that prove Harvey is a liar I challenge you to publish them here. Personally I have always thought him a highly disgusting specimen - totally unfit to represent The Right.

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Gregory Lauder-Frost A dossier has already been prepared. You will hear more later. I am getting just a bit fed up with being smeared. Time to take action against a few people.

BASILDON BOY

They have become nothing more than a muddy puddle of political minnows squabbling over something nobody cares about while the real political fight has moved on years ago...

Gregory Lauder-Frost

Interesting. Pray, tell us where has the political fight moved to then? Because the three parties at Westminster are virtually indistinguishable in real terms. As they are successfully retained there by moronic tribal voting and our undemocratic electoral system, maybe you could advise us all where we go from here. Thanks.

BASILDON BOY

A speaking minnow!

Time out from fighting other minnows!!!

gc

I have been a committee member of the Swinton Circle, I have known Alan Harvey for some years, and I am convinced that he is sincere in his desire to keep extremist elements out of the Circle's meetings.

I have engaged with the CDA in the past, and I regret that that organisation does not share Harvey's principles.

I have spoken at a meeting of the Springbok Club, which I would not have done if I beleived it to be an extremist or racist organisation.

Mikeuk

You've already posted this elsewhere. Do you want to get banned for spamming the site?

Come on big man. Tell us who you are.

Populist Lee

Oh dear.

Someone has been pulling the wool over your eyes, methinks.

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Mikeuk

Time for telling it like it is.

I am Chairman of CDA and I was for years a very right-wing Conservative. I didn't join the BNP though.

Your pal Harvey was an enthusiastic member of John Tyndall's fascist National Front before there was one of the usual splits. He then decamped to South Africa where he ran a racist newsletter that argued for the retention of apartheid just as the government was in the process of dismantling it. He alse promoted vile 'Holocaust Denial' literature, mostly imported from the USA.

Back in the UK Harvey has continued to make an obnoxious nuisance of himself, libelling all and sundry, but especially those who oppose Monkey Boy's ridiculous so-called 'War on Terror'

Last year Harvey claimed that I was supporting the War on Terror in a secret conspiracy that included the African National Congress and the Ba'athist Party.

His solicitors are now dealing with the High Court Claim (oldspeak 'writ') I sent to his bungalow in Hearne Bay.

Er...you did say Mr Harvey was a friend of yours, didn't you?