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Earthling · 26-06-2008, 11:06 PM

BBC NEWS | Politics | Cameron's Britain: Euro-doubts

HM · 26-06-2008, 11:11 PM

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While it helps them argue the case that the treaty is dead, it also hands them a convenient blunt weapon for next year's Euro elections.

The June 2009 elections for the European parliament will be taken by most in Westminster, and perhaps many in the country, as merely a dress rehearsal for the general election.

But there is also likely to be clear blue water between the main parties on Europe itself.

Why aren't UKIP mentioned? We beat the Lib Dems by quite a distance last time round didn't we? Some analysis.

gremlin in the works · 27-06-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UkipHM

Why aren't UKIP mentioned? We beat the Lib Dems by quite a distance last time round didn't we? Some analysis.

they dont want the cat geting out of the bag thats why

youcanhandlethetruth · 09-07-2008, 05:03 AM

"If David Cameron becomes prime minister he may spend an awful lot of time in Brussels as well as talking about Europe."

Maybe he can pick up some tips from George Osbourne who recently attempted the Bilderberg meeting in America to discuss the globalists agenda.

Knew it was too good to be true....

Jim Smith · 22-07-2008, 09:16 AM

Some good news, if the Lisbon Treaty is not in place (i.e. agreed by all the EC), by the time of the next GE then an incoming Conservative Govt is committed to having a referendum on Lisbon.

That would stop the whole process.

So let us pray for an early GE.

youcanhandlethetruth · 22-07-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Smith

Some good news, if the Lisbon Treaty is not in place (i.e. agreed by all the EC), by the time of the next GE then an incoming Conservative Govt is committed to having a referendum on Lisbon.

That would stop the whole process.

So let us pray for an early GE.

This is another of those bluffs the main parties use in conjunction with each other to fool you into thinking they will be willing to listen to the electorate.

The only time they promise referendums or welcome public policy changes is when they know they won't have to honour them.

Except when of course they don't honour their manifesto pledges.

So either expect the Tories to U-turn or much more likely expect a 2010 GE.

Jim Smith · 22-07-2008, 09:36 PM

If GE is called before Lisbon is agreed by all the countries, then the one party that has the potential ability to
1) win the GE and
2) is committed to a referendum is the Conservatives.

It is a limited period of time and if the GE is as late as 2010 then the chance will probably be gone.

However if a GE happens before, then eurosceptic parties will have to re-think where they stand as stopping Lisbon has to be given the top priority.

UKIP has to look at what is best for the UK.

Baron von Lotsov · 24-08-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth

"If David Cameron becomes prime minister he may spend an awful lot of time in Brussels as well as talking about Europe."

Maybe he can pick up some tips from George Osbourne who recently attempted the Bilderberg meeting in America to discuss the globalists agenda.

Knew it was too good to be true....

Well Thatcher also attended, but the difference was she told them to get stuffed over the EU. Then she got kicked out and europhile 'Knight of the Garter' Major was installed.

Fenland · 24-10-2008, 11:08 AM

Speaking as a once ardent Tory ( I defected when traitor Heath got us into this mess) when will the Tories get off the fence and say yea or nay to the EU. It is obvious to me they are afraid to make up their minds say they would take us out and their defectors would flock back, that is what the British people want and that is why I ow vote UKIP.

eublues · 24-10-2008, 11:27 AM

Cameron is not on the fence - his party is pro-EU.

There's a relevant story on Conservativehome today:

Glenrothes by-election candidate calls for repeal of European Communities Act
The Telegraph reports of Maurice Golden:

"Maurice Golden, a 28-year-old campaign manager for Keep Scotland Beautiful, was asked by a political magazine which one law he would repeal, if given the chance. "European Communities Act 1972," he told the Total Politics website, without a moment's hesitation.

"The act took Britain into the European Economic Community and its repeal would entail withdrawal from the EU. Cameron declared only a few months into his leadership that MPs advocating withdrawal would be barred from serving on his front bench.

The Telegraph pursued this story with David Cameron's office. Cameron's spokesman responded: "David has spoken to Maurice and there is no question of him wanting to pull out of the European Union. Maurice believes that there should be changes to the act, but not that it should be repealed."

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22-07-2008, 09:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jim Smith Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 108	Some good news, if the Lisbon Treaty is not in place (i.e. agreed by all the EC), by the time of the next GE then an incoming Conservative Govt is committed to having a referendum on Lisbon. That would stop the whole process. So let us pray for an early GE.

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Jim Smith Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 108	If GE is called before Lisbon is agreed by all the countries, then the one party that has the potential ability to 1) win the GE and 2) is committed to a referendum is the Conservatives. It is a limited period of time and if the GE is as late as 2010 then the chance will probably be gone. However if a GE happens before, then eurosceptic parties will have to re-think where they stand as stopping Lisbon has to be given the top priority. UKIP has to look at what is best for the UK.

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Fenland Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 16	Speaking as a once ardent Tory ( I defected when traitor Heath got us into this mess) when will the Tories get off the fence and say yea or nay to the EU. It is obvious to me they are afraid to make up their minds say they would take us out and their defectors would flock back, that is what the British people want and that is why I ow vote UKIP.

24-10-2008, 11:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,122	Cameron is not on the fence - his party is pro-EU. There's a relevant story on Conservativehome today: Glenrothes by-election candidate calls for repeal of European Communities Act The Telegraph reports of Maurice Golden: "Maurice Golden, a 28-year-old campaign manager for Keep Scotland Beautiful, was asked by a political magazine which one law he would repeal, if given the chance. "European Communities Act 1972," he told the Total Politics website, without a moment's hesitation. "The act took Britain into the European Economic Community and its repeal would entail withdrawal from the EU. Cameron declared only a few months into his leadership that MPs advocating withdrawal would be barred from serving on his front bench. The Telegraph pursued this story with David Cameron's office. Cameron's spokesman responded: "David has spoken to Maurice and there is no question of him wanting to pull out of the European Union. Maurice believes that there should be changes to the act, but not that it should be repealed."