British-Conservatism

Who was the last Real Conservative to lead the Conservative party?

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Like The Roman

I considered Michael Howard an acceptable Conservative leader, it was only after Cameron took the helm that I lost all confidence in the party. However, they would have to become Powellesque to lure me back now.

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For_England

Neville Chamberlain. Churchill was conservative on most issues, but a liberal on trade.

HM

I'd say Howard. Poor leader but I thought his policies in 2005 (http://www.conservatives.com/pdf/manifesto-uk-2005.pdf) were reasonably conservative and definitely better than the Lib Dems' or Labour's.
Not like this buffoon Cameron with his spineless politics like "hug a hoodie" and that "vote blue go green" tosh. If I vote blue, I want to go blue! Other notable policies seem to be persecuting single parents, bashing Brown and staying in the EU.

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BonnieDundee

The word conservative has so many different meanings to different people at different times and different places that it is rather impossible to say who is a real conservative.

I'd say the only people who are really worth calling conservatives are the anarcho-primitivists.

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Leopold Kohr.

Baron von Lotsov

Yes he wasn't bad but guess what? When Howard fought the election it was Cameron who wrote the manefesto! He does have a bit of rigthwing in him but I think he does not want a destructive split to occur in the party so he comes across as being everything to everyone. Thatcher on the otherhand was far more confrontational about socialism so I voted for her.

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Like The Roman

Cameron has, in modernising the party, merely made it compatible with the current zeitgeist - social marxism.

Many people seem to believe that once in power they will revert to their traditional, right-wing principles. In truth, voting for the Tories as they are is merely an endorsement of their new manifestation.

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Vortex

The Conservative Party today is nothing like the Conservative Party of even the 1960's. In those days there were still powerful people who believed passionately in Britain remaining a strong, independent nation, that genuinely put the country and its people first. Gradually over the last forty years it has morphed into the present opportunistic organization that seeks power at any cost to serve the interests of the wealthy elites that control so much of the nation. It adopts and jettisons policies at the drop of a hat, posturing like New Labour, in the hope that the electorate will still believe that the old gang parties are the only ones to have solutions. Its desperation for the ethnic and other "minorities" votes often to the detriment of the much maligned white working class has seen it as patronising and untruthful in its attitudes and desires as Labour and the facile Liberal Democrats. In reality they are like different salesmen flogging the same discredited product, flanneling the public with stories of doom and gloom if they look for an alternative one.

The last true Tory leader, one who genuinely put Britain first was probably Winston Churchill. Certainly Edward Heath was the worst

British-Conservatism

Are you serious?
The 1974 Liberal party manifesto is even to the Right of this rubbish.

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British-Conservatism

Howard wanted more foreign aid, 100,000 immigrants a year not counting asylum seekers who it says "we should take our fair share", more foreign aid etc.

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