Who was the last Real Conservative to lead the Conservative party?

BonnieDundee · 02-08-2008, 08:07 AM

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Reported in The Scotsman that children as young as four are to be taught about same-sex relationships through fairytales and storybooks with gay and lesbian characters.

So?

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A pilot scheme to introduce children to gay issues is running in several schools across England with stories such as "King and King", about a gay prince, or "And Tango Makes Three", about gay penguins who fall in love and raise an adopted child.

The £600,000 scheme, called the "No Outsiders" project, has the backing of the Department for Education and is designed to help schools adjust to new rules on promoting homosexuality as a lifestyle.

According to those heading the project, children in one participating school used the "King & King" fairytale - which tells of a prince who rejects the love of three princesses before falling in love with and "marrying" another prince - as a basis for writing "alternative Cinderella" stories. In another participating school in London, children aged between 4 and 11 are rehearsing for a performance of an opera called "The Sissy Duckling" about a male duckling who loves cooking, cleaning and art.

So?

BonnieDundee · 02-08-2008, 08:08 AM

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Most people are in the middle!
Are you one of them?

Not really.

kernow · 03-08-2008, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sixxstring

On my views and interpretations of Conservatism, I'd go with Mrs Thatcher. But at the time, she wasn't a traditional Conservative. She was a woman. She was a product of the grammar school system. She even told the Old Guard of the Conservative Party she didn't need them anymore, as she had a mandate for everyone, and not just the Establishment. She was one of the last politicians with real balls.

I have to say I agree!

ENGLISH UNIONIST · 06-08-2008, 02:39 PM

I voted for Duncan-Smith who, let it not be forgotten, unsuccessfullyintroduced a Bill, the European Communiites (European Courts) Bill, in 1996, which would have amended the European Communities Act 1972 to give the United Kingdom Parliament a right to review judgements and doctrines of the European Court of Justice, and overrule those considered contrary to the original domestic legislation. Currently the ECJ acts to uphold EU laws over laws made by national parliaments of EU member-states.

Duncan-Smith also unsuccessfully tried to move an amendment to the Human Fertilisation & Embryology Bill to safeguard the need for any child - conceived via IVF treatment - to have a father, despite the evidence that children who have fathers tend to be healthier and more democratic and law-abiding than those born to single mothers and lesbian couples who don't.

Compare this to "that bloody woman" who did the most unconservative things, e.g., signing the 1985 Anglo-Irish Agreement (which afforded the Government of the hated Irish Republic a say in Northern Ireland's affairs) and signing the 1986 Single European Act.

Insofar as homosexuals and homosexuality is concerned, I really do feel this is a matter for discussion on another topic, although I have always taken the view that being homosexual is no lesser – or no greater – sin than being heterosexual, and by singling-out gay men and lesbians for discrimination, others lay themselves open to the charge of being homophobic. Not all homosexuals (myself included) are interested in buggery but all, wthout exception, are sexually attracted to other men.

British-Conservatism · 06-08-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ENGLISH UNIONIST

I voted for Duncan-Smith who, let it not be forgotten, unsuccessfullyintroduced a Bill, the European Communiites (European Courts) Bill, in 1996, which would have amended the European Communities Act 1972 to give the United Kingdom Parliament a right to review judgements and doctrines of the European Court of Justice, and overrule those considered contrary to the original domestic legislation. Currently the ECJ acts to uphold EU laws over laws made by national parliaments of EU member-states.

Duncan-Smith also unsuccessfully tried to move an amendment to the Human Fertilisation & Embryology Bill to safeguard the need for any child - conceived via IVF treatment - to have a father, despite the evidence that children who have fathers tend to be healthier and more democratic and law-abiding than those born to single mothers and lesbian couples who don't.

Compare this to "that bloody woman" who did the most unconservative things, e.g., signing the 1985 Anglo-Irish Agreement (which afforded the Government of the hated Irish Republic a say in Northern Ireland's affairs) and signing the 1986 Single European Act.

Insofar as homosexuals and homosexuality is concerned, I really do feel this is a matter for discussion on another topic, although I have always taken the view that being homosexual is no lesser – or no greater – sin than being heterosexual, and by singling-out gay men and lesbians for discrimination, others lay themselves open to the charge of being homophobic. Not all homosexuals (myself included) are interested in buggery but all, wthout exception, are sexually attracted to other men.

Good Lord you are a homosexual?

BonnieDundee · 07-08-2008, 05:54 AM

Who cares?

Smidgey · 07-08-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

Who cares?

People who are paranoid and see bogeymen around every corner?

British-Conservatism · 07-08-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee

Who cares?

Most people care thats why they ask.

Westcountryman · 07-08-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism

Most people care thats why they ask.

Are you 'most people' then?

allanon · 07-08-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympic Flame

Immigration control and low-tax free-market capitalism, typical conservative, not a little bit surprised.
On average 4 working adults are needed to support one pensioner. Without mass immigration, the current left-wing welfare system need to undergo drastic changes.
You cant have everything.

Unless mass immigration brings real inward investment into the UK it will be the same wealth being circulated around an ever expanding population.

The pyramid scheme we call the welfare state is now starting to fall apart; I wish it Gods speed.

View Poll Results: Who was the last Real Conservative to lead the Conservative party?
Cameron	1	2.70%
Howard	2	5.41%
Duncan-Smith	2	5.41%
Hague	3	8.11%
Major	1	2.70%
Thatcher	20	54.05%
Heath	0	0%
Douglas-Home	2	5.41%
Macmillan	3	8.11%
Other please state	3	8.11%
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06-08-2008, 02:39 PM	#94 (permalink)
ENGLISH UNIONIST Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Royal Tunbridge Wells, Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 133 Party: UKIP	I voted for Duncan-Smith who, let it not be forgotten, unsuccessfullyintroduced a Bill, the European Communiites (European Courts) Bill, in 1996, which would have amended the European Communities Act 1972 to give the United Kingdom Parliament a right to review judgements and doctrines of the European Court of Justice, and overrule those considered contrary to the original domestic legislation. Currently the ECJ acts to uphold EU laws over laws made by national parliaments of EU member-states. Duncan-Smith also unsuccessfully tried to move an amendment to the Human Fertilisation & Embryology Bill to safeguard the need for any child - conceived via IVF treatment - to have a father, despite the evidence that children who have fathers tend to be healthier and more democratic and law-abiding than those born to single mothers and lesbian couples who don't. Compare this to "that bloody woman" who did the most unconservative things, e.g., signing the 1985 Anglo-Irish Agreement (which afforded the Government of the hated Irish Republic a say in Northern Ireland's affairs) and signing the 1986 Single European Act. Insofar as homosexuals and homosexuality is concerned, I really do feel this is a matter for discussion on another topic, although I have always taken the view that being homosexual is no lesser – or no greater – sin than being heterosexual, and by singling-out gay men and lesbians for discrimination, others lay themselves open to the charge of being homophobic. Not all homosexuals (myself included) are interested in buggery but all, wthout exception, are sexually attracted to other men. __________________ THE UNION OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND, UNLIKE THE EUROPEAN UNION, DESERVES (AND NEEDS) TO BE MAINTAINED AND STRENGTHENED DAILY.

07-08-2008, 05:54 AM	#96 (permalink)
BonnieDundee Uber Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Between Mallaig and Cornwall. Posts: 2,809	Who cares? __________________ "It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state." -Bruce Schneier How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and pss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.* Edward Abbey Leopold Kohr.

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