Hartlepool

David H,having read quite a bit about your man Buchanan today,I find it very difficult to understand how you can present him on here and why would anyone (who may be British),support Buchanan.

Buchanan has blamed the Brits for starting WW2 in his praises for Germany,Hitler and the Natzi ideology.I note he is a full 50%German with the other being Irish.

Are you British david H or do you prefer to be a Scot,Irish,English or Welsh,just curious?

david H

In his previous 3 books her makes excellent points about the decline of the West and devotes considerable space to our problems. To dismiss him because of his ethnic origin as you do is racism and youi UKIPers like to pretend you are not that. You will have to read the books for yourself. It is quite easy.
I happen to agree in principle with the suspicion of American motives in our regard being expressed but the practical fact is that American Conservative thinkers are much better than ours and have the guts to say things.
Buchanan has not blamed Brits, as you put it, for starting the war: he says that there were serious blunders made that brought it about.

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Hartlepool

Buchanan says quite clearly that the Brits started WW2,you may have missed it,take a look.

Presidential Candidate Pat Buchanan - The Dark Side


Scroll down and read the small quoted section under..."In his Ivan the Terrible Column".

Then come back here and deny that he never said that us Brits started WW2.

Its a bit much, you stating how upstanding Buchanan is when he has been known for years to be just about anti everything decent.Send him an email about himself,and post his address on here so I and others can email him as well.

Hartlepool

Also,I see Buchanan also claims that us Brits also started WW1 as well.

Is he a full shilling,Buchanan?

Gregory Lauder-Frost

The Serbs started The Great War. They had been working up to it for some time. The Pan-Slav alliance with Russia merely encouraged them to commit the atrocity which sparked it off.

Gregory Lauder-Frost

I'm afraid that as more and more documentation is released from archives, particularly Soviet archives, Great Britain's position relative to the outbreak of WWII is not looking good.

We all know the received or victor's version as it has been rammed down our throats since we declared war on Germany (not, by the way, visa versa). The full story has never been afforded our schoolchildren and with so-called historians like Martin Gilbert, Andrew Roberts, and Ian Kershaw still churning out versions of the same old garbage the public remain unenlightened.

Of course, to take a 'revisionist' line on what should be a matter of intense re-research and revelation brings scorn and sneers of pro-Nazi etc., by the ignorant or by those who do not want the truth published. One such brave person upon who heaps of excrement was thrown was Nicholson Baker when he published Human Smoke - The Beginnings of World War II, the End of Civilization. But a recent reprint of Udo Walendy's Truth for Germany - The Guilt Question of the Second World War also deals specifically with the origins of the war. It is well researched and worth reading, even though parts are a little tedious because of the translation from German.

But Buchanan is simply one of a growing number of people prising the lid off this can of worms.

g hall

Let's see now Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland a state who's existence had been guaranteed by France and Great Britain
The crucial point is that they only warned Hitler that if he did not withdraw then a state of war would exist between Germany and the Allied powers
In effect by not withdrawing Hitler declared war on France and GB

I suppose you traditional Tories don't believe in"An Englishman's word is his bond" and would break your contracts and become oath-breakers

We should have helped the Finns and given Stalin some cr@p as well

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g hall

Your revision of the established facts is almost as good as Stalin's

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"That government is best which governs least."
"This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries".
"To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."
Remember TANSTAAFL and TANJ

Gregory Lauder-Frost

I see. So you think a few lines of unexplained garbage will suffice here? You're not very clever are you, really.

Gregory Lauder-Frost

Its not a revision. Its a fact. maybe you need to study the subject before commenting.