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Old 01-10-2008, 04:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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You calling me a Nazi?
You sure you want to do that?
You have in the past advocated nationalising the utilities which is called for by socialists, you appear from your comments indeed your name to be nationalistic all I can say is if the cap fits
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Try reading it again I haven't called you a Nazi
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Try reading it again I haven't called you a Nazi
So you are now saying im not a Nationalist Socialist when you said -

"I have not said anywhere that races "are exactly alike" what I have said is that using race (colour or creed) as an excuse to tar everyone with the same brush is wrong as we are all individuals of course National Socialists like you will not understand that will you, all to do with the hive mentality"

Seems pretty clear to me.

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So you are now saying im not a Nationalist Socialist when you said -

"I have not said anywhere that races "are exactly alike" what I have said is that using race (colour or creed) as an excuse to tar everyone with the same brush is wrong as we are all individuals of course National Socialists like you will not understand that will you, all to do with the hive mentality"

Seems pretty clear to me.
Seems very clear to me as well.
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Seems very clear to me as well.
Moreover, given that up to about 50 years ago virtually the entire world was very 'racist' in that they all readily accepted the fundamental differences in the races, that would make billions of people Nazis.

one really gets sick and tired of those who fling all these accusations around. They are unable to have intelligent discussion with out smear-words which are designed to put people beyond the pale.
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Try reading it again I haven't called you a Nazi
I have called you a National Socialist for the following reasons

On another thread you advocated Nationalising the Utilities and the banks
clearly the views of a socialist

You clearly state that you are a British Conservative and highlight your Nationality ergo National Socialist
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Moreover, given that up to about 50 years ago virtually the entire world was very 'racist' in that they all readily accepted the fundamental differences in the races, that would make billions of people Nazis.

one really gets sick and tired of those who fling all these accusations around. They are unable to have intelligent discussion with out smear-words which are designed to put people beyond the pale.
Really Gregory I don't think so somehow your attitudes could explain the crossover between some segments of UKIP and the BNP

I am more then happy to have a genuine and intelligent discussion about anything without resorting to bigoted claptrap
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Really Gregory I don't think so somehow your attitudes could explain the crossover between some segments of UKIP and the BNP

I am more then happy to have a genuine and intelligent discussion about anything without resorting to bigoted claptrap
Did I make an untrue statement? If so, point me to it.

Your attempts at trying to ease yourself out of this as set out above are not very convincing.

Lots of people feel that the utilities should be in State hands because they feel that making profits out of, say, water, something fundamental to human life, is immoral. That doesn't make them socialists. Socialists want to nationalise things because its part of their Marxist Class-war dogma. There is a difference.

The Tory Party, was, by its position on a considerable range of subjects, very Nationalist (until, say, the last war, since when they have abandoned it). The same party demolished miles of slums when Neville Chamberlain was Lord Chancellor and erected over three million council homes for the poor. They took several water companies into State ownership. Would you say they were therefore national socialist?

I stand by my comment above that it is wholly wrong to adopt The Guardian / Tribune line in calling people Nazis. You know exactly what that means.

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given that up to about 50 years ago virtually the entire world was very 'racist' in that they all readily accepted the fundamental differences in the races,
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And how about all those who can only whine on about the blacks, the coloureds, the immigrants (nudge nudge) and blame them for all the worlds ills when if they actually think about it is not the case

We have British-Conservatism making stereotypical comments about race and crime if he is right then why aren't the home countries of those he's decrying full of crime ?

As for describing someone as a Nazi or National Socialist there is a difference you know. I do not know if he (BC) advocates genocide so I wouldn't call him a Nazi (or indeed a Stalinist) BUT he takes a stereotypical position on race which like Jack Black is a load of cr@p.

I note he also has an avatar which features Enoch Powell which is nice and user friendly

As regards nationalising the utilities all that it requires is for their to be effective regulation which has been loosened by the incumbent government

If you feel that companies making profit out of water which is necessary for life is wrong where do you buy your food which is equally needed and do you advocate nationalising the major food retailers and manufacturers
That'll cheer Tesco et al up won't it

I think you'll find some of Chaimberlin's houses where built by the GLC in spite of the Tories

As for The Gaurdian and The Tribune they are as full of cr@p and I wouldn't wipe my bum with them after a good evacuation
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I have called you a National Socialist for the following reasons

On another thread you advocated Nationalising the Utilities and the banks
clearly the views of a socialist

You clearly state that you are a British Conservative and highlight your Nationality ergo National Socialist
By your standards then Disraeli, Churchill, Eden, McMillian, De Gaulle and every Conservative party in the Western World where National Socialists till the late 1970's.
Nazi is short for National Socialist by the way.
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