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Old 07-10-2008, 10:29 AM   #131 (permalink)
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The manner in which you first stated it, because you conveniently forgot the secret general elections, after which coalitions were indeed formed.
Just keeping it simple for certain people

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The fact of the matter is they did NOT sieze power and 37% is very creditable in General Elections under the continental PR systems, even today. They gained power via the ballot box.
Even you admit that a state of emergency was declared and that is the point when they did seize power

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The Bolsheviks certainly siezed power in a most murderous manner.
Well we agree on something

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Worth pointing out that no British government in my lifetime has ever had anything like 50% of the vote.
I would suggest this has never happened in the UK

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Where has the von Hindenburg story come from? Funny that von Papen (in particular) and others don't mention it in their memoirs. A State of Emergency was declared after the Communists burnt down the Reichstag it is true.
If I was a Communist I would consider that statement to be libellous ( I know you like to resort to the law when it suits you so sauce for the goose and all that ) there is no proof who burnt it down indeed their is a well supported theory that Hitler's followers did it

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If we'd had running battles with organised communism in Britain for 20 years and they burnt down Westminster Palace what do you think our Prime Minister would do? I'd say he'd declare a State of Emergency.

But anyway, I'm not going to argue the toss on all this tedium. You still have not answered the original question. Skirting around it with all this historical stuff is not an answer.
It is an answer you and your fellow travellers might not like it because the truth hurts - tough

BTW You never answered my question is this you Greg old chap

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Old 07-10-2008, 12:21 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Ghall, you told me recently about all the wonderful jobs you have done but your manner of discourse betrays low origins. You took the gutter with you.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:58 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Ghall, you told me recently about all the wonderful jobs you have done but your manner of discourse betrays low origins. You took the gutter with you.
My manner of discourse betrays low origins does it and yet even though I'm in the gutter I'm still not as low as you.

You've never enlightened us about your origins 'fess up or are you to embarrassed about them
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Even you admit that a state of emergency was declared and that is the point when they did seize power
Alas no. That is not what you said or meant. You stated the usual lie that they seized power, meaning that was how they came into government. Its not very original, even for you. I know this garbage suits the Left because their collegues in St Petersburg did that and began murding people instantly. But that was not the case in Berlin. They were elected in the normal way.


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There is no proof who burnt it down indeed their is a well supported theory that Hitler's followers did it.
More garbage. The arsonist, a card carrying communist, was caught escaping from the premises, tried, admitted his guilt and sentenced. Theories by The Left are meaningless as they endlessly try to change history to suit themselves.


I am dealing with your other defamatory accusations.
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The arsonist, a card carrying communist, was caught escaping from the premises, tried, admitted his guilt and sentenced. Theories by The Left are meaningless as they endlessly try to change history to suit themselves.
He was Dutch as well and he was tortured to admit his guilt but there was little corroborative evidence tha he was indeed the guilty party

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I am dealing with your other defamatory accusations.
I got your message and have replied and have asked you for clarity and am quite willing to apologise for anything proven to be incorrect.
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He was Dutch as well and he was tortured to admit his guilt but there was little corroborative evidence that he was indeed the guilty party.
His nationality is irrelevant. Communism is world revolution. Look at the Reds who flocked to the Spanish Civil War. Cite the authoritative evidence that he was tortured. Why didn't he say so when he appeared in court? What was he doing running out of the blazing building, his clothes smelling of petrol? He was arrested by the normal police, not by the Nazis.
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g hall and david H, mark well Wilde's words.
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