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What gets me is they come out with a statement like saying it will get 4 degrees hotter without telling us how or why they have come to this conclusion. Especially in this country, they just ……………………………. opinion. Now if their computer models were open source we could see exactly how they work. We could have some independence, and it would be scientific once again.
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BVL, there are NO SECRETS. Whether you like it or not, the almost unanimous consensus of world governments, including our own and the USA, is that the IPCC is impeccably analysing all the diverse RELIABLE scientific information relating to Climate Change and reaching conclusions that are so persuasive to those governments of the forthcoming consequences of AGW.
This is what the IPCC was set up to do, - independently of other ‘pressure’ groups.
If you continue to think the IPCC is a tool of some corrupt New World Order, you are only condemning your own credibility.
As Besoeker has suggested to you many times, go and read the IPCC report TAR 4 but, IMPORTANTLY, with your scientific hat on, and then you may see from the multiple scenarios the IPCC suggest, where the ‘numbers’ come from.
I am fairly certain that if you dug deeply enough in the peer-reviewed literature you would also find the ‘computer models’ – again there’s no secret. I’ll bet you a pint, if we ever meet one day, that you wouldn’t understand even 10% of them though. You might try, as a starting point, going to the Hadley centre website where, I think you may be able to access Hadcrut.
Finally, today the DT (& as a close watcher of it, it has been prone to contrarianism) has published a ‘GW’ sea level rise article :-
Coast beauty spots will be given up to the sea - Telegraph
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………………………… Last week the British-based Proudman Oceanographic Laboratory forecast a sea level rise of up to 1.5 metres by 2100. …………………….
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