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Originally Posted by Earthling
UKIP are the party Labour should have been.
Supporting individual freedoms, freedom of speech, hostility towards the EU, taking the poorest people earning less than 10k out of tax... punishments to fit the crime.
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Ah yes, UKIP - the Party that voted for 42 days detention...
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Originally Posted by Earthling
The Tories were never vehemently anti-EU. As you rightly mentioned kernow it was Heath who was a traitor to the country. Thatcher though effectively dividing the country had a lot of potential for maintaining Britain's interests with regards to the EU, but bottled it and Major signing Maastricht got us to where we are today.
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Bottled it? Sorry, who won that UK rebate?
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Originally Posted by Earthling
I don't for one second feel reassured that Cameron will be any different to any of the former Conservative PMs. It would be BRILLIANT if I was wrong but let's face it the Tories record of signing our freedoms away to the EU is much worse than Labour.
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Merely because the Tories have been in power longer. Labour signed Lisbon did they not? Blair also signed away our opt-out on the 'Social Protocol' which Major had secured in 1991.