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Aardvark · 06-08-2008, 07:49 AM

ychtt,

The thread heading is 'Germany and EU to Legalise Paedophilia'. This is misleading spin and lies.

The booklet was produced in Germany alone and there is nothing to link it to the EU as an institution. There is nothing to suggest that the German Federal Government is seeking to legalise paedophilia nor to suggest that the EU is doing likewise.

The facts are that the booklet is no longer produced and has been withdrawn from the website. There will be no further distribution through official channels. That cannot be interpreted as a move to legalise paedophilia.

The booklet does not advocate the legalisation of paedophilia, but, IMHO, makes misguided suggestions that are open to misinterpretation by people who have an unhealthy interest in children's private parts. It is a 'health' document and is not a legal equivalent of the UK white paper where new laws are mooted.

The original article posted seeks to misinterpret the item. I would take the article that chikrodah has translated as being the German position on the matter. Certain phrases are open to misinterpretation and the booklet will no longer, quite rightly, be published or distributed.

LifeSiteNews.com and the contributors take a very strange perspective on the matter: 'It is, he said, "State-encouraged incest, which in most civilized societies is a crime." The development is, he suggests, a natural outcome of the rejection of the Judeo-Christian moral order'

I think that gives a clue as to the motivation of the publishers of the original item.

In fact it is not the encouragement of incest except to those of a perverse mind. There is no suggestion that the booklet encouraged sexual relations between family members.

I wonder about these people who cry wolf over non-existent paedophilia all the time and what drives them. I don't see paedophilia around every corner, but some people use its presence as an excuse to impose their will on others.

UKIP would look otherworldly if as a party it called for an investigation into a booklet that has been withdrawn and prosecutions in another country for unspecified crimes. I am sure the original complainant, who lives in Germany, will have taken legal advice if she felt a prosecution was necessary. I am sure the German Federal authorities know better than UKIP what the German law is and what offences exist.

What sections of the German Federal legal code have been breached? What crime has been committed under German law? I don't think UKIP, with its desire to leave the EU, should be interfering in the legal processes of another EU member country. That could lead to all sorts of complications if the Germans tried, in return, to impose holocaust denial as a crime on the UK.

06-08-2008, 07:49 AM	#32 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,980	ychtt, The thread heading is 'Germany and EU to Legalise Paedophilia'. This is misleading spin and lies. The booklet was produced in Germany alone and there is nothing to link it to the EU as an institution. There is nothing to suggest that the German Federal Government is seeking to legalise paedophilia nor to suggest that the EU is doing likewise. The facts are that the booklet is no longer produced and has been withdrawn from the website. There will be no further distribution through official channels. That cannot be interpreted as a move to legalise paedophilia. The booklet does not advocate the legalisation of paedophilia, but, IMHO, makes misguided suggestions that are open to misinterpretation by people who have an unhealthy interest in children's private parts. It is a 'health' document and is not a legal equivalent of the UK white paper where new laws are mooted. The original article posted seeks to misinterpret the item. I would take the article that chikrodah has translated as being the German position on the matter. Certain phrases are open to misinterpretation and the booklet will no longer, quite rightly, be published or distributed. LifeSiteNews.com and the contributors take a very strange perspective on the matter: 'It is, he said, "State-encouraged incest, which in most civilized societies is a crime." The development is, he suggests, a natural outcome of the rejection of the Judeo-Christian moral order' I think that gives a clue as to the motivation of the publishers of the original item. In fact it is not the encouragement of incest except to those of a perverse mind. There is no suggestion that the booklet encouraged sexual relations between family members. I wonder about these people who cry wolf over non-existent paedophilia all the time and what drives them. I don't see paedophilia around every corner, but some people use its presence as an excuse to impose their will on others. UKIP would look otherworldly if as a party it called for an investigation into a booklet that has been withdrawn and prosecutions in another country for unspecified crimes. I am sure the original complainant, who lives in Germany, will have taken legal advice if she felt a prosecution was necessary. I am sure the German Federal authorities know better than UKIP what the German law is and what offences exist. What sections of the German Federal legal code have been breached? What crime has been committed under German law? I don't think UKIP, with its desire to leave the EU, should be interfering in the legal processes of another EU member country. That could lead to all sorts of complications if the Germans tried, in return, to impose holocaust denial as a crime on the UK. __________________ When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008 Last edited by Aardvark; 06-08-2008 at 07:52 AM.