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Originally Posted by Bob FM
My aim is for my group to improve year on year, we have achieved that in the last two years. As for EU withdrawal if UKIP can gain a few GE seats then pressure can be put on Cameron to give the referendum he promised. This has now got to be the Politics of embarrassment. We have got to keep reminding the 'leading' parties of their performance over Lisbon to date. The public are listening, 60% and growing now say out. 95% if the Express are right.
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I agree with you completely Bob with your goal of improving year on year. That is what the party needs to be working towards as a whole.
Progcon - please don't be offended, but it appears that you are looking for a magic bullet that will get us out of the EU quickly. I can't see it happening. The leadership of the three establishment parties is fully in favour of remaining in the EU.
What if your New Referendum party succeeded in persuading the three establishment parties to hold an in or out referendum? Presumably as soon as the referendum campaign began the Party would collapse (you've called for a shared leadership by both a Eurosceptic and a Europhile). Therefore, who would take up and run the campaign for the Out side? It would be the three main parties campaigning to remain in (plus the SNP and other various regional parties) with only a few Tory MPs campaigning to remain out. I'm not convinced that a plurality of voters would vote to leave the EU just yet, but even if the Out side won, do you really think that the government of the day or indeed any of the other opposition parties would actually listen to the vote in that instance? They would simply ignore it. In which case we would then be in a worse position than we are now. Just as stuck in the EU but with no vehicle to uphold the independence flag.
I'm sorry, but there is only way out at this time. UKIP needs to become strong enough to win seats on local and county councils, and in Westminister. Only when it starts costing the three establishment parties seats and threatens to cost them the opportunity to form government may we see a change in attitude.