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Old 02-08-2008, 07:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
Raymond Finch
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Originally Posted by progcon.org View Post
"What you are calling for is an entirely different party."

I am indeed. Headed by a respected, politically experienced eusceptic and respected euphile. I am not proposing to change UKIP, but to seek an alternative approach entirely.

UKIP is not getting us any closer to EU withdrawal, but it has genuine, passionate campaigners who could make a real different if pointed in the right direction.

I'd love to see Nigel as the eusceptic co-leader. The MEP strategy has failed. UKIP as a vehicle is not going to achieve eu withdrawal.
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"If you are so convinced of the efficacy of such a party, why not start it now?"

Because it would have to be organised by a respected eusceptic and euphile. I have neither the experience nor interest to do so. This isn't about me, it is about a frank discussion of possible more effective ways to achieve EU withdrawal. I am just putting an idea out there.

None of the many and true supporters of eu withdrawal within UKIP would care if the party died if some other vehicle presented a better chance of achieving the goal. Do you agree?
You said you wanted NF to be co-leader. You must have had another co-leader in mind. Who would this be?

Your final quote seems to intimate that you do not believe I actually support EU withdrawal. I do. However, unlike yourself, I believe that UKIP is the vehicle to achieve independence for our nation. I do not bother questioning others commitment to the cause because I do not agree with them.
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