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Old 01-08-2008, 02:27 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Bob FM View Post
It makes absolutely no sense whatever to wish to actively engage with and work for a party who you wish to see taken to the cleaners.
Hang on, he is a victim of the party here, and the party refused to take appropriate action, leaving him either to pretend it didn't happen or go to the police. If the only way to teach the UKIP leadership to take their responsibilities seriously is to take them to court, then that is hardly John's fault. Spinning it as 'taking them to the cleaners' is simply reversing where the actual blame lies here - with UKIP.

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Well, it just doesn't add up does it? John West claims that he wishes to remain active in UKIP, both as a branch chairman and as a PPC! At the same time he is apparently so outraged by the release of his interview video on Youtube that he has reported the party for violating the Data Protection Act, thereby possibly causing damage to the party.
Your use of partisan logic here is staggering. John is NOT causing damage to the party. The party, via an unauthorised individual, committed what looks like a criminal act, and then refused to take any action to resolve it (which is a bigger problem than the original offence). Annabelle, Whittaker and Farage are the ones damaging the party, no one else.

Who reports the crime is absolutely irrelevant; it is the perpetrators of the crime who are responsible. If John hadn't done it, I guarantee someone else, like GLW, would have.

Attacking John for reporting a crime as 'damaging the party' is just astonishing. This gang culture mentality makes me nauseous. You actually appear to be encouraging party members not to report crimes committed by other party members, and those that do will be subjected to a tirade of abuse.

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Therefore it would follow that either he isn't as outraged as he makes out, or he is delusional.
And your personal crusade against him continues; this is really quite repugnant. Is it possible that he is just a committed party member who wants a decent party? i.e. one that obeys the law and deals swiftly and responsibly when problems occur? Just because he has reported a crime to the police doesn't mean that he has to resign, or that he no longer believes in the cause.

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mrabody, there is of course another hypothesis. He could be just hoping he is made such and offer and then could then really twist the knife.
Do the pair of you realise just how bullying and unpleasant you are being towards him?
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