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Originally Posted by noachian
Smidgey; I 'love' the Queen so much because she reprisents the crown; whch ultimately reprisents the laws which have evolved from it. Freedom etc....
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If you think this country has every experienced real freedom them you are sadly deluded.
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And if somebody ignorantly dissagrees with me I have the RIGHT to educate them, with all do respect Smidgey you can't tell me that should not defend the Queen. And the Queen does reprisent the country's values and laws; whether you follow or agree with them is entirely up to you.
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You do not have the right to educate them at all. You have a right to say whatever you wish, but you do not have the right to educate them - they can ignore what you say or they can disagree with it (as I am doing).
Further, forgive me, but I never once said you could not defend the Queen.
Finally, I doubt there has been a single time in my entire life where I have followed British law (at least in the criminal sense). I don't break the law, not because it is the law, but because it is right.
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If I choose to follow the Sovreign of teh Crown; then that is MY CHOICE. I will defend the Crown because it reprisents the laws of the United Kingdom.
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I never said it wasn't your choice, but you must also realise that it is my choice to reject it (as I am sure you would), because I believe in liberty before being a subject to a centralised individual who should have no authority or standing over me. You, however, do not believe in liberty - but that is your choice.
Further, you have just proven in this statement that your claim that the monarchy is 'vital' to Britain is absolute nonsense. There are plenty of other countries that have law represented in something else (maybe something that it makes sense to represent law in - such as a written constitution). Your claim that you will defend the crown
because it represents the laws of the UK refutes your own claim that the crown is vital to Britain.
Tell me, was France no longer France after the revolution?
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I was bould with Mikeuk because I am sick of the ignorance and hostility towards a woman who does is so devoted to her job, and please don't counter argue that Hitler was good at his job because there is a difference and you know it.
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I don't actually, please enlighten me.
Where does it state that being good at ones job deserves respect?
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She, along with most other people; deserves the respect and gratetude of her subjects. It is pure iron-arrogance if one chooses to be disrespectful to her. Although any socially minded being would know that.
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Any socially minded being would be more concerned with his fellow
citizen and fellow man than some abstract 'crown'.
I can be disrespectful of whomever I please (that, is my
right), however, concerning the Queen - I'm sure she is a fine person of great moral standing - it is her office I am disputing. Concerning Prince Charles - I have a different opinion. I will not be looking forward to when this man - a man who gives pro-EU speeches in the EU parliament - becomes the monarch.